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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 07:44 PM
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91 octane.. zoom zoom ?

do any of you use 91 octane in your f wun fiddy? do you see any difference in gas milage or hp or tq or any bs? Don't say yes if your truck isnt all stock.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:03 PM
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As far as i know if you dont have a tune it makes your truck run sucky and can cause pinging
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:18 PM
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As far as i know if you dont have a tune it makes your truck run sucky and can cause pinging
What he said. If you don't have a tune optimized for premium fuel, you're just throwing money out the window.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:23 PM
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I can't say.....I'm not stock
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 08:25 PM
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well I cant run on anything less than 93... so I like it
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:03 PM
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No, it can't cause pinging. It will ping on too LOW an octane. It also won't run bad, it's just not worth the extra expense.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:23 PM
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The army is paying for my gas.So i figured if there was a time to experiment it was now. I just didnt want to harm my truck. So as far as $$$ is concerned nopers.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:36 PM
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get a tune that requires 91 octane, then you can take advantage of a lot more timing.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:41 PM
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Sorry, mine too runs a chip requiring at least 91 octane, but from others, they say it makes a difference in how clean the engine runs. No hp gains that anyone notices, but when it comes time to change the plugs, they are showing a better burn which could only do good for the rest of the system, EGR for example. I don't think running it always is worth it, unchipped, but a few tanks here and there wouldn't hurt.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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I just run normal 87 octane. There's really no reason to use anything more than regular if you have a stock truck, and it isn't pinging.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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I run 87 in mine.....

Unless you add a blower or in some way increase your compression you won't need 91. (flame suit one)

I know many of you have been told by tuner manufacturers and belive that you need to remove the 4% of heptane do to a tune. You didnt increase the compression, you just changed the timing, so why would you suddenly ignite from compression sooner if you ran more heptane?

Dont belive me?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question90.htm

It turns out that heptane handles compression very poorly. Compress it just a little and it ignites spontaneously. Octane handles compression very well -- you can compress it a lot and nothing happens. Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 02:30 AM
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i ran 93 in my truck for a couple of tanks and got a little better gas mileage, but the extra .5 mpg didnt out weigh the extra cost
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag


I run 87 in mine.....

Unless you add a blower or in some way increase your compression you won't need 91. (flame suit one)

I know many of you have been told by tuner manufacturers and belive that you need to remove the 4% of heptane do to a tune. You didnt increase the compression, you just changed the timing, so why would you suddenly ignite from compression sooner if you ran more heptane?

Dont belive me?

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/question90.htm
What you quoted doesn't say anything about increased timing, only compression. Since back in the 70's, I have always managed a lot more timing without knocking by running higher octane. That is fact. Higher octane changes the flashpoint and burn rate of the gas.

With a programmer, you can set it to run on higher octane (advanced timing). If you run low octane on the high octane setting, the computer retards the spark to stock levels. Mileage and performance suffer. I've tested my Superchips in all settings. FOr best mileage (well over the amount that justifies premium) I run the "tow" setting - the high performance setting gives me more performance, but lower mileage.

Around here, the cost of Premium is less than 5% over regular. I get over 20% better mileage. If you run Premium, use a programmer to optimize it's use. The computer will back down the timing for low octane, but doesn't take advantage of higher octane.
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Bryndon
Higher octane changes the flashpoint and burn rate of the gas.
This is true. Everything else said is moot point cause this guys truck is stock, therefore the change in burn rate will have no noticable effect on the efficiency of his engine mechanics.

stick with a *quality* 89. There is no point in putting in higher octane if you have stock.


Ordinance- Is that b/c you are doing a DITY move? I'm doing my first one coming up here, and still trying to iron out the details...
 
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Old Aug 10, 2007 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by ArmyDude
This is true. Everything else said is moot point cause this guys truck is stock, therefore the change in burn rate will have no noticable effect on the efficiency of his engine mechanics.

stick with a *quality* 89. There is no point in putting in higher octane if you have stock.


Ordinance- Is that b/c you are doing a DITY move? I'm doing my first one coming up here, and still trying to iron out the details...
That's why I said if you run Premium, get a programmer to optimize it. the computer will decrease the timing, but not increase it enough for Premium.
 
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