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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 11:16 PM
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The COT is to nascar as the ring is to Gollum in the lord of the rings. My precious.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 01:33 AM
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Deducting points/money, be it owner's and/or driver's, is a joke.
Sending them to the back of the pack is a joke.
Sending the crew chiefs home for 6 weeks is a joke (seeing as with all the technololgy, the CC can still do their job from home or the shop).

If nascar wants everyone's attention, they should start sending cars home. We all know they won't do that because of $$$$$$, one way to get around that would be to black flag the cars in increments of 10 laps.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:00 AM
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like I said before, they need to bring back the Winston Cup and just do away with the COT
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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the cars fit the templates. 24/48 were just smarter than the rest and nascar didnt like it. nascar is getting more and more like iroc every year. it still watch the races, but i am enjoying them less and less every week....
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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This was a COT race though. They screwed up. They pay the price. NASCAR said they wouldn't tolerate messing around with the new car. They set a precedent at Darlington with the 8 car.
the precedent they set at Darlington was for an illegal/unapproved part .. that would have been the same penalty on either car ..


I am not saying that Hendricks shouldn't have been penalized .. but working the gray areas is not the same thing as bolting on illegal parts.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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Did I read that correctly?? They were caught with an illegal part on Friday?

The damn race wasn't till Sunday, how the heck is that cheating??

Sorry, I don't watch much Nascar...
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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Charlie, they were caught on Friday trying to alter their car beyond the rules for Sunday's race. They had full intentions of using the cars the way they were built for Sundays race, but since inspections are on Friday, that is when they got caught.

Gipraw, I think it is Hendricks's interpretation that it is a gray area, but the rule directly from the 2007 NASCAR rule book states that the fenders cannot be altered unless approved by NASCAR. They altered the fenders, did not have approval and got caught. That really doesn't sound like a gray area to me, pretty cut and dry, and very blatant disregard of the current rules.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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To elaborate a little more on the above post. If you show up to the track with an illegal car and get caught, you pay the price. You proved your intent to race an illegal car.
 
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 09:14 PM
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Grey areas have existed in Nascar for many years, but since this was their beloved COT they aren't letting the grey area come into play anymore.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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Charlie, they were caught on Friday trying to alter their car beyond the rules for Sunday's race. They had full intentions of using the cars the way they were built for Sundays race, but since inspections are on Friday, that is when they got caught.
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To elaborate a little more on the above post. If you show up to the track with an illegal car and get caught, you pay the price. You proved your intent to race an illegal car.
and 20-2H (fenders may not be cut or altered except for wheel or tire clearance which must be approved by the Series Director) of the 2007 NASCAR rule book.

I am NOT defending anyone's actions, just questioning iron fist authority. Nothing seems cut and dry here to me.

Who's to say that whatever modifications 24/48 made, wouldn't be approved by the series director? If they weren't approved, change whatever was modified back, simple. Don't fine/dock/suspend on those grounds alone.

Give whomever a chance to make it right. They had two whole days to get it
fixed before the race even started right? If it fails inspection, fix it, if it fails again, send 'em home.

Sorry, I don't see the problem here.
 
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 11:16 AM
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Old Jun 28, 2007 | 01:14 PM
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48 other cars did make it through inspection un-gray. Why did two crew chiefs from the same house suddenly think it was ok?
 
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