I never saw any need for shock collars. Had my golden on a choker for a while, he learned to respect the limits of his leash with that. All you need to train a dog is paitience and persistance, with the occasional smack on the nose.

All it really takes is the right tone, if he still tries to ignore me on very rare occasions I just stomp my foot he will drop whatever he is doing and get right back to my side ASAP.

 

That's awesome. I was hoping to get more replies like this.....then again, it's only day 2.

The problem that I have with my 2 dogs is the back yard fence.

We just got new neighbors, and they have a pit. The Pitbull looks like he is about a year or so old. I haven't talked to the neighbors yet, they haven't gotten settled in. Anyway, my 2 assclown dogs will rush the fence and bark like mad at the pit. Now, you and I both know, the pit would make my 2 Shih Tzu's (***** zoo lol) into a nice little snack, but he seems to be a very mello pooch.

What can I do to train these 2 idiots to stop doing that? Any ideas?

 

I'm no dog expert, and I do not claim to be but from people I have talked to at the K-9 police camp I sent my pit to, have all said that little dogs tend to be the hardest to train due to that fact that they can be very high-strung(sp). From experience I know that both of my families Yorkie's will try to be dominant over my pits.

 

Not an expert either but here is wah tI would do.

Can the pit get to the fence?
If so, walk out walk up to the pit and make friends with it.
If they continue to bark while you are there, then just give them a stern look and point at them. They will know what you mean.
Your dogs will see that the pit is not a threat to the packs hiearchy order, that you are still the leader, he is now under you and that they are still your favorites.

 

Mine learned fast, he managed to get out the rear gate once and took off. One kick in the *** and that was then end of that. Left both doors to the garage open once and he got out that way, he just sat by the gate till I found him and let him back in the yard.

Sometimes a good swat is what they need, not too much just enough to make them think. For those two a stern tone, maybe a thump on the nose. Shouldnt take them too long to figure it out.

Small breads always seem to be more difficult, but not impossible.

 

Let em know who's boss. Go out there and demand they stop. If they don't put the little ******* on their side. Alpha Dog baby!

 

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I've got a custom SportDog.

Shock collars are not for everyone or every ordinary pet. They do serve a usefull purpose in the training of a hunting dog that ranges far from leash range and dogs that weigh half or more what a grown man does.

My Chessie has been hit enough that simply strapping the collar on him is attitude adjustment enough without having to ride the lightning most times. He will have it on every time I have him out hunting for his own sake. We hunt a lot of large bodies of water and a clipped diving duck can carry a dog completely out of eyesight. He is extremely headstrong and will not quit on a duck. When he gets far enough out he can't hear a whistle either. There is an audible alarm on the collar that I can hit and if that doesn't do it, I can give him a mild bump to make him break off his pursuit before he gets so far out he may drown.

 

Thanks guys.

Matt, that worked for awhile.

I caught the neighbor yesterday mowing his yard after I made that post. I went over and introduced myself. Cool guy. Well, dumb and dumber came running up the fence acting like a couple of morons. I got Miaghe's attention and he shut up, but Rowdy....that lil bastard wouldn't listen for anything. So, I smacked him on the nose, and that shut him up, but they were both doing their little, "this is my territory dance".
Tough mutts, I tell ya.
He called his Pit over and while we talked I let him smell my hand through the fence (chain link BTW). Once he started to lick my hand, I knew he was cool. I made eye contact, gave him a pat, and at that moment, "beavis and butthead" calmed down. They stayed calm through out the conversation and I was impressed.

Then later that evening we all came out to relax on the back porch. Wanna know what happened when we let the idiots out? NOTHING.

We were all shocked. It was great for about 20 minutes....then I had to hobble my cripple *** to the fence and repeat the process, but I think if I stay on top of it, I can prolly break their "habit" and get the dogs to be friends. awww

Anyway, thanks again folks.


Oh, and I will never use a shock collar on a dog, unless I was wearing one as well, and I aint gonna wear dat chit.

 

They are a reinforcement tool for training and long range correction, not backyard punishment.

I've never had a need to use one on my dogs that were just pets either.

 

Ive heard alot of guys swear by them for hunting. My golden can be a little stubborn at times when comes to chasing down game, but he knows when Im serious and will get his *** back to me right away.

 

I gotcha.

I just hate to be shocked...no matter how minor so it makes me feel bad for the dog.

Now, I can see how it would be a great training tool if you were training a bird or coon dog in the field.

 

When I first saw the title of this thread, I immediately thought of the South Park episode with Steve Irwin wanting to shove his thumb right up the animal's ***...

 

Alot of guys here use them on coon dogs. I am more serious when it comes to coon hunting and if I have a hard headed dog that wont listen to my calls or take correctins, I would trade or sell the bastard if he wont do his job correctly. Sometimes a shock collar is the only thing that will get thier attention from 1/2 mile or more away. Especilly a trash running dog that if allowed to run trash could chase deer, bobcat or other long rangse game 3-5 miles away. I aint walking 3-5 miles to retrive a dumb dog that dosnt have teh since not to run it. If it's a bobcat they'll kill the dog before you could get there.

Bird dogs have a different temperment and they are always with in eyesight. I have found a whistle works best for them.

For your dogs, when they chage the fence... normally stomp you foot to get thier attentin but right now you may have to clap. When tehy look drop your head, look at them from the tops of your eyes and glare at them. This gesture ask them if they are challenging you. If they continue then they don't respect you and you must move in to them and take control.

 

Let me start off by saying....."you should train dogs, Matt".

Lemme explain.

Last night, we went to the porch to chill, it was kind of warm, but still tolerable. We had the morons out with us, and the whole time, and not one bark. Maybe the dogs are getting used to each other. Their territory has been marked, maybe they will behave.

 

well put

When my golden acts up all I have to do is look him in the eyes and he will kinda sink back and lower his head, ans stop being an ***. Seems to be a trait of alot of dogs, looking in the eyes is a sign of submission for them and with retrievers they will not challenge their master. Mine sure wont he knows whats good for him. But hes 8 now and has learned over the years.