If you watch the show on the Science channel called "Killer Lakes" on right now, then you will understand this better.

This is more like a blog entry, and I may end up bloging it on myspace too, but I got to vent (no pun intended).

I was just watching a show about Deadly Lakes. Apparently there are atleast 3 "deadly lakes" in the world. Lake Nyos, lake Mnoun, and lake Kivu.

When lake Nyos exploded, there was less than 1% survivor rate. 99% of the inhabitants died. We are talking a large explosion here that shot a column of water an estimated 300' in the air and sent a large title wave on all shores. But the inhabitants did not drown, they were suffocated (aka suffercated ) by the CO2 that now crept across the surface of the water in an eerie white cloud caused by moisture in the air condensating, making it visible.

OK now for the arrogance:
In 2001 the decided solution was that the lakes needed to be burped by a controlled release of gas to prevent any further tragedies. So 5 pipes would be dropped in to the depths of the lake, to allow the gas saturated water to rise under a controlled situation.

Currently they have 1



Then we realize that we are essentially releasing large amounts of CO2 into the atmosphere. (duh, who was this genius?)
So a proposed solution is to pump it into the depths of the ocean, it would take billions of years before the ocean would reach it's saturation point and explode. The depths, and denser salt water will be more than a sufficient bottle cap to contain the carbonated water.
May God have mercy on the planet when it does explode though!!!!!

What effect will this have on the ecosystem at the bottom of the ocean though?
In turn what effect will that ultimately have on our own ecosystem?
What if these lake explosions are serving some much larger purpose in the further development of this planet than the small picture that we can see?

Reminds me of when we use to think we had to put out the wild fires in California and in doing so we almost single handedly caused the ancient Sequoia trees. Who many of the ancient trees have survived millions of years of climate changes. By interfering with nature we almost caused them to become extinct. Turns out the seeds needed the undergrowth cleared and the heat from the fires is what triggers the seeds to open and begin to germinate.

I ask you.
How dare man?
How dare we be so arrogant in these matters?
Mother nature has a plan and a reason, if' it's a natural occurrence leave it alone, there is a reason.

Also on a side note, I find it ironic that such huge amounts of ozone depleting gases are being released naturally. How many of these vents are above ground not being trapped in water for us to find?

 

Feel better?

 

of all the nerve

 

Somehow, it will all the Republican's fault.

 

yeah i heard bush is being paid off by a carbon dioxide lobbyist and and its all a conspiracy to make the oil companies profit more. and fire doesnt melt steel.......

 

Blame Canada!!!

 

I totally agree, man interferes to much in the workings of nature!

 

Yea I would not have a problem with the occupants around the lakes to install CO2 detectors, maybe a large communiity detector with storm siren and keep small oxygen tanks handy and/or maybe a shelter built for the purpose.
It'd be a cheaper, safer method and wouldn't interfere with nature at all.

Dont get me wrong I am far from being a tree hugger. I have a V8 sports car, truck and even my boat has a v8. I run 2stroke PWC, chainsaws, weed eaters. I burn brush piles, I also burn camp fires, I burn wood for heat, and I barely think twice about any of it.

But there is a line of respect, and interfering to prevent something from haappening is crossing that lne.


Who knows?
We never cease to amaze me with our ignroance and arrogance.
I'm sure it won't be long until I hear about another incident and seems that each one is amazingly more stupid than the next.

 

You know...

maybe the planet wouldn't have a fever if we had socialized medicine here in the US.

I couldn't agree with this thread more. Humans, in general, are pretty damn arrogant. Yet some how, by spending millions/billions/trillions of tax dollars, we are going to cure the planet of it's fever? Ok.

 

Exactly, I respect nature and I even support conservation to a certain extent!!! I don't believe in total rape, pillage and plunder of our natural resources and I don't believe in trying to prevent natural occurrences from happening. If people know they are living in the path of nature they have the choice of moving or dealing with it!

 

Man is a part of nature, no?

Therefore, what man does is a direct consequence of nature.

Therefore, our depleting and destroying the environment is essentially an act of nature (or, to use your terms, WE (and what we do) are the workings of nature).

Works for me. I say if you got it or can get your hands on it . . . use it.

But that's just me.

Now, if you'll excuse me, I'm going to leave work, drive in my big sedan, and burn some non-renewable fossil fuel (if you buy into that theory).

Cheers.

 

The best question about global warming theory... who decided what temperature is the correct one? Maybe the earth should be 5 degrees warmer than it is today... or 50 degrees colder. Which arrogant human says the temp 20 years ago was the "perfect" temp.

The earth itself releases considerably more "greenhouse" gasses than man - maybe the earth is trying to commit suicide.

 

That is the question at hand:
What is mans relationship and what is our role?

You answered it later in your post.

Unfortuanltly much to the disliking, we have a parasitic relationship with nature.
Many parasites kill thier host to reproduce and survive, but many need thier host for survival.
We are the later. If we kill our host or if it dies, we are dead too.


A better question is: Did they use the same thermometer?

They claim 1º warmer now than 100 years ago.
Whos to say the thermometer then or now wasnt 1º difference........ or each is .5º off from each other.

 

We aren't indigenous to this planet. Tom Cruise says we were dropped off by aliens.... or something.

 

Interesting article on that...Cows produce more greenhouse gases than cars!