Yea the ammo is expensive but it is worth 2" groups at 500yds.

 

I have two Remington 700 30-06's. Both are awesome guns, shoot great, reliable and accurate!

 

If by "some Jap company" you mean Browning, then you'd be correct. Yes its true, unfortunately some Brownings were made in Japan, but could hardly be classified as "some Jap company". I've owned both Winchesters and Brownings, and IMHO I think the merger between the two will be great. And for what its worth, I'm still seeing NIB 94's all over the place.

Read the article here... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winches...g_Arms_Company

 

I'm not a hunter but since the .270 is a common der hunting round I would imagine the .308 would be just as effective...and I have a Savage 12FVSS bolt action in the .308. It's a very nice build and the newer models have the nice triggers too. Officially, mine is a varmint rifle...but again, with .308 I'm sure deer would be no match

I primarily wanted .308 because of my past military experience. Hey...if the snipers like .308, how can I not?

 

Hey, tell your friend he can get one of these for about the same price as a good deer rifle and it can be used for alot of other things and is a great fun gun!

This is what I use for fun when I dont feel like spending $60 to shoot my .300 20 times... Ammo for it is very inexpensive and very accurate. Only problem with it is I would not take it shooting in the wooded areas...

 

Sweet. Im starting to get some ideas for myself from this thread

 

When choosing your rifle there are few things to consider.How far are you expecting your shots?The terrain that you will be hunting?Has this person shot before?If not he should stay away from larger calibers until he gets used to shooting.I know one person with a browning BAR 7mm w/boss.The guy is scared to death of it.His groups at 100yards are 4ftx4ft I have watched him and he closes his eyes and jerks the trigger.I can shoot the same gun and get 1in groups.Basically any caliber will do fine,depending on needs some are better than others.
I still rifle hunt some but my weapon of choice is Mathews Outback w/Grim Reaper broadheads.Remember It's not how far you can shoot,it's how close you can get

 

I think Im gonna borrow a few guns off another friend who has a bit of a selection for himself. Let him see what he prefers.

Another gun question I have for myself. Ive been wondering for years now if having to use steel shot for waterfowl is gonna ruin my shotgun. Its a pretty old Winchester 1500 with the full choke. Ive heard eventually the end of the barrel will be destroyed by steel. I love shooting with this gun, but I dont want to destroy it, it was my grandpas and has alot of sentimental value.

 

some people have reported that their shotgun barrels showed more damage with steel than lead but I have shot my shotgun prob. thousand times with steel and dont notice hardly anything...

I think it depends on the gun and the make. If it is an older gun and you would like to keep it really nice then shooting lead might be a little better as far as keeping the gun nice. I know one thing! I would rather be sprayed with steel than with lead! Lead feels much worse

 

Another vote for a Savage for your buddy. I have one that is every bit as accurate as a tweaked Ruger that I also own at 1/2 the price and came that way right out of the box.

On the steel shot.... personally I wouldn't shoot it through your Winchester. If you ever have shot bridging occur... you can kiss that barrel goodbye. At the least it is probably going to wind up scoring or bulging at the muzzle sooner or later.

If you want to continue to use it you need to switch to something like bismuth or tungsten matrix by Kent. More expensive than steel, but it won't ruin your grandad's shotgun.

You can probably tell by the user name that I burn through several hundred rounds of steel shot a year.

 

What terrain is he hunting?. If he is in the woods shooting under 100 yards then a 7mm is way to much gun. try a true and trusted gun like the 30.30 lever, ammo is cheap and they now have even better ammo for them and its shoots very nice out to and over 200 yards. Then there is the 30.06 a fine choice. Try a bow and arrow also.

 

Thanks guys, I think Ill just pick up another 12ga before the season starts this fall. Ill keep the Winchester for chicken and skeet shooting when I can still use lead shot. That gun has had thousands of rounds of lead magnums fired through it and hasnt shown any signs of wear, but since all it will be seeing from now on is light field loads should last forever

Ill be passing the info on to my friend about the rifles. Ill see if I can talk him into a smaller caliber since he has never fired a center fire before. Or Ill just give him my .303 to play with for a day and see what he thinks of that. Since it will be mostly scrubland and light woods a .270 should do just fine for him since he seems dead set on a bolt action.

 

Couple shots of my Savage

 

This bad boy gets my vote, even though I have a savage 7mil mag

 

The 30.06 was the standard sniper rifle before the 308 was, I forget the reason it was changed, but the good thing about the .06 is that it's not a belted round...At 1,000 yards, an .06 is still super-sonic, and that means a lot when you're hunting something that runs like a deer (no pun intended). My friend has a Remington 30.06, and he just got a new scope, and if you adjust right for the wind, it's very accurate at 500 yards (we don't have a place to shoot any longer than that). His is an old one, made in July of 1973, it has the good trigger and buttplate, but we did have to have the trigger reworked (age) and the safety reworked so you can chamber a round with the safety on (something they corrected later, you can do that with the newer ones). He also got a newer barrel for his, all in all, he has about 1,500 dollars in it (scope and all), but it's a very good gun and I would recommend Remington bolt action to anyone. Happy hunting!
lariatf150, is that a 270, possibly a 300 win-mag? Nice rifle!