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Old Apr 7, 2007 | 06:36 PM
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Your Thoughts on the Brit Soldiers?

Some in the media (US and Briton) feel that their actions where less than couragous. Playing Iran's game allowed them to live, critics say they gave in too easily, your thoughts?
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 10:00 AM
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It sounds like they folded like lawnchairs on a July afternoon.......
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 10:28 AM
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Keep in mind that the UK is not officially engaged in military actions in or with Iran.

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:34 PM
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In my opinion, they did everything they could do to keep the team alive in a bad situation, so they could return home and tell what really happened. They did not give away anything that could really be used by Iran, which gave the diplomats a chance to settle it.
That being said, if they are still patrolling near the line, they have a large enough ship close by that can blow anything Iranian out of the water if they come over the line again.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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I think they should have just looked at the interogators and told them name, rank, serial number and to go **** themselves. But, common soldiers arent really trained to cope with torture and interrorgation techniques. Only special forces recieve that.

Personally, Id have a destroyer in the area from now on and any Iranian vessel that leaves their waters gets one warning shot, after that blast them to hell.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:44 PM
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Take a walk in their shoes, then judge them.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Stealth
Take a walk in their shoes, then judge them.
Its impossible for anyone to know what they would do in that situation. Id like to think Id have the ***** to tell them, f you, f Iran, f your jihad, and f your mother.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:03 PM
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Make's you wonder about the "confessions" and "intellegence" we're gathering from the guys at Guantanamo. These guys folded in less than a Week, and were saying anything the Iranians wanted them to. And they didn't even use Water Boarding!

I'm not knocking them though. You do what you gotta do I guess...
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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I was annoyed after a retired US General harshly critized them. To me anything said in that situation is not how they really felt. Words under duress are meaningless, I would say anything they wanted to get back to my family. It's not like they compromised military secrets. I couldn't imagine my children growing up without a father just because it was more honerable to be killed than saying a few lies in captivity.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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I thought they were pathetic.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 02:08 PM
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I thought they were pathetic.

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Like most people, I had sympathy for the families of the sailors and marines held hostage in Iran and didn't like the way they were being used as propaganda puppets.
But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling surprise at their apparent willingness to co-operate with their captors.
They didn't seem to have been physically tortured, yet they ‘confessed’ on television like participants on Oprah.
Obviously, they were under mental duress, but nevertheless I hope that even in our new feminised Armed Forces they haven't been trained to behave like this if captured.
What must World War II veterans, held for years in German and Japanese prisoner of war camps, revealing nothing more than name, rank and serial number, made of this?
Both my grandfathers fought in the War and they are probably spinning in their graves right now.

It looks like the traditional British stiff upper lip has been replaced by a trembling lower lip.

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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by EnglishAdam
Like most people, I had sympathy for the families of the sailors and marines held hostage in Iran and didn't like the way they were being used as propaganda puppets.
But I'm sure I'm not alone in feeling surprise at their apparent willingness to co-operate with their captors.
They didn't seem to have been physically tortured, yet they ‘confessed’ on television like participants on Oprah.
Obviously, they were under mental duress, but nevertheless I hope that even in our new feminised Armed Forces they haven't been trained to behave like this if captured.
What must World War II veterans, held for years in German and Japanese prisoner of war camps, revealing nothing more than name, rank and serial number, made of this?
Both my grandfathers fought in the War and they are probably spinning in their graves right now.

It looks like the traditional British stiff upper lip has been replaced by a trembling lower lip.

Sorry
If they had been Canadian troops I would probably feel the same way. The Liberal gov did everything they could when in power to turn our forces into pacifists. But had our soldiers given in I feel it would disgrace every soldier who served before them. Many spent years being starved and tortured in Jap prison camps and many others with the Gestapo and SS.

Im sure my great-grandfathers, and grandfathers would have been very disapointed had Canadians made such remarks.
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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Name, rank and serial number is the old saying when held captive as a POW. Now adays i believe you can do whatever you have to do to stay alive and come home, you can go on tv and apologize all you want...everybody who watched that knows that it was nothing more than propoganda B.S, they didn't tell Iran secret information or anything like that. Those men were told by the brirish gov't to give up and not resist capture, so they did what they were told. I am in the Air Force here in England and all that the Brits in my shop had to say was that they had to give one thing to the Americans, if it had been our boys being captured there would of been one hell of a fight!! They said you Americans don't put up with any B.S
 
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Old Apr 8, 2007 | 04:42 PM
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Thats one thing Ill always give Israel credit for too. They dont **** around when it comes to their people. Kidnap one, and they will may you pay dearly for it.

I just cant understand how anyone could go without a fight, especially when your being taken hostage by nation outside their territory.
 
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