Hum-Vee, Duece & 5-ton retiring?

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:04 PM
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Hum-Vee, Duece & 5-ton retiring?

The Army is testing new tactical vehicles to replace the Hummer, Deuce and the 5-ton...



Dang, the deuce has been in-service longer than the B-52. The B-52 (50 years old) is only half-way into it's run though... Still has 50 more years to go (planned).

That's an airframe for your ****...

Anyhoo, back to land-based news...

Source 1: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070329/...ncept_vehicles

Source 2: http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...d/ftts-msv.htm


SEATTLE - A group of soldiers has been busy testing a series of high-tech military concept vehicles outfitted with remote weapons systems, night-vision capabilities and enough strength to sustain the concussion of a roadside bomb.

The vehicles, while only in the concept stage, are part of the Army's $60 million program to modernize its aging tactical fleet for the challenges of today's military missions.

"What we're running with now has become antiquated," said Tim Connor, a Defense Department contractor who is overseeing the project.

He said the soldiers at Fort Lewis got their hands on two utility trucks and two maneuver sustainment vehicles Wednesday "to play with them and try to break 'em."

Unlike traditional Humvees, which often don't have enough protection for the dangers soldiers in Iraq, the concept vehicles are equipped with remote weapons systems, night-vision capabilities and diesel-electric hybrid engines. They also include ballistics glass, video cameras and touch-screen controls.

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The Tank-Automotive Research, Development and Engineering Center is developing an advanced tactical truck system, called the Future Tactical Truck System, which will streamline deliveries to deployed troops. The FTTS is a family of trucks comprising two variants: the Maneuver Sustainment Vehicle (MSV) and the Utility Vehicle (UV). The MSV, with a capacity of 13 tons, replaces the 2½-ton Light Medium Tactical Vehicle, the 5-ton Medium Tactical Vehicle, Heavy Expanded Mobility Tactical Truck (HEMTT) and Palletized Load System (PLS) vehicle in the Unit of Action (UA).

Moreover, the future vehicle concept will provide increased fuel efficiency with extended supply ranges of 600 to 900 miles. The system will enable 100 percent communications support, thus increasing supply delivery accuracy and eliminating unnecessary re-supply activities.

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These sound like some mean vehicles... Wish I could drive one...
Damn, you know you're getting old when you were in the Army when the Hummers came out (1987). I heard about, but never got to drive what we had before the hummers... The Gamma-Goats.

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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 05:21 PM
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Now if the army was smart, theyd get about half the fleet they need, then sell the current fleet of HUMVEES and Dueces to get the money to buy the other half.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Now if the army was smart, theyd get about half the fleet they need, then sell the current fleet of HUMVEES and Dueces to get the money to buy the other half.

Nah, all that stuff will go the the guard & reserve units so they can get rid of those Chevrolet CUCV's.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 07:55 PM
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the Army started to replace the deuce and 5 ton around 1999. They were replaced with the LMTV and FMTV.

i was at Ft Hood so we got all the new stuff when it was first released.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:16 PM
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Heck my old guard unit got rid of the last deuce in 2002. It's all 5 tons with the single tires (CTIS), FMTV's and HEMMTs. Oh yeah, and the POS HMMWVs.
 
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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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I was recently peeking in on my old unit (3rd Signal brigade) at Fort Hood, and saw some new looking trucks there, in the 5-ton size...

We were MSE, so we didn't have deuces in the Platoon's anymore, only Hummers. But, we had a few in the HQ Platoon. I've driven the 10-wheel deuces & 5-tons, and the 10-wheel International bucket-trucks (What a piece of crap), but I never LEGALLY had license for a 5-ton.

In desert storm, one of the units in my Brigade (11th Signal) got the new 6-wheel, automatic, 5-tons. They were so new, they didn't even locks for the steering wheels yet. We'd played with them that day, and that night a few of us snuck outside the fence and took two of them for a joy ride. Dumbasses- we could have all gotten Article 15's!

We weren't qualified on them or anything. Those were the ones you could inflate and deflate the tires on, from the inside. Sweet trucks...

All they needed was air-conditioning. Damn, it got hot over there... 103 at 8:00 AM, it wasn't much different from Dallas at night though, when the temp could still be 95 - 100 at midnight.

I was one of the last from 11th SIG to return to Fort Huachuca. Those of us on the stay-back detail (To prep he equipment for return) departed on June 14, 1991. They said the really hot month over there was August... I'm glad I missed it. The advance team (going over) were not so lucky... They went in August 1990... (WHEW!)

Lee, where and what years were you at Fort Hood? I'm sure we didn't know eachother, but we kight have put our fott in your unit's butt on the football or softball field .

I was there:
  • April 1992 - Oct. 1994: D. Co. 57th Signal BN, LEN PLT, (Fort Hood, TX)
  • Oct. 1994 - Oct. 1995: D. Co. 122nd Signal BN, 2nd ID, Camp Hovey/Camp Red Cloud, South Korea.
  • Nov. 1995 - Dec. 1996, D. Co. 16th Signal BN, 1st PLT,(LEN) (Fort Hood, TX)
 

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