Does a 4x8 sheet of OSB fit between w/w's?
Originally Posted by Raoul
That figures.
OSB hit the market in 1978 and my house was built in 1980.
OSB hit the market in 1978 and my house was built in 1980.
The reality is that if you prevent moisture intrusion from occurring, both products will perform for almost an indefinite period of time.
Originally Posted by ddellwo
And if you're talking subfloors, some of the newer "high performance" OSB products run circles around plywood in almost every aspect of performance.
Just my .02-cents.......
On the last house we used a new product called avantech i think? Its 3/4 osb toungue and grove with a warrenty that it will not take on moisture. It was about 80lbs a sheet but it laid nice...the sheets arnt warped like plywood. The floor was rained on many times and the seems never came up anywhere in the house.
All i know is i carried every freakin sheet on that 1800 sq ft house and my the time i was done...my right arm was 3 inches longer
Last edited by trytokeepup; Mar 14, 2007 at 04:53 PM.
Yeah -- Advantec is one of those high performance products. Very dense, strong panels, but as you also found out -- heavy! When I was driving nails we called panels like that "arm stretchers" and for good reason!
Originally Posted by ()smoke()
go concrete and earth bermed, and then you're onto something


Seriosly the only cons to my earth berm home are
1. Not all insurance companies will carry an earth berm
2. Not all banks and creditors will loan on one
3. Hard to get an accurate appraisel because once someone has one they ussually dont sell it so since they dont sell very often and they are suppose to compare your house to 5 equal homes that have sold with in 6 months with in so many miles.
4. Lack of windows/doors
5. Constant battle with moisture/humidity.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Mar 14, 2007 at 05:40 PM.
Originally Posted by ()smoke()
go concrete and earth bermed, and then you're onto something
anyone live in a house built of SIPs? or insulated concrete forms?
i look forward to using rammed earth if/when i get back out west...
anyone live in a house built of SIPs? or insulated concrete forms?
i look forward to using rammed earth if/when i get back out west...
http://www.iceblock.net/
Grim
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Bingo, you nailed me. 
Seriosly the only cons to my earth berm home are
1. Not all insurance companies will carry an earth berm
2. Not all banks and creditors will loan on one
3. Hard to get an accurate appraisel because once someone has one they ussually dont sell it so since they dont sell very often and they are suppose to compare your house to 5 equal homes that have sold with in 6 months with in so many miles.
4. Lack of windows/doors
5. Constant battle with moisture/humidity.

Seriosly the only cons to my earth berm home are
1. Not all insurance companies will carry an earth berm
2. Not all banks and creditors will loan on one
3. Hard to get an accurate appraisel because once someone has one they ussually dont sell it so since they dont sell very often and they are suppose to compare your house to 5 equal homes that have sold with in 6 months with in so many miles.
4. Lack of windows/doors
5. Constant battle with moisture/humidity.
sounds cool man!
it's really a shame about numbers 1,2,3...
Originally Posted by Grim
very cool--how do you like it?
this is what we use....they are changing their product to go with 16'' tall forms and have the solid plastic tab so you dont have to strip the outside out with metal strips for siding...
http://www.owenscorning.com/foldform/
http://www.owenscorning.com/foldform/
Originally Posted by ()smoke()
very cool--how do you like it?
Negatives:
1) When the house was new and it cooled down at night, you could actually hear the styrofoam in the walls shifting in relation to the concrete. It was not very loud. I never noticed it during the day, only at night. It quit making noise after a couple of years.
2) It is difficult to hang anything heavy on the inside walls. Trying to set a concrete anchor through 2" of styrofoam is no fun!
Grim
Originally Posted by Budha05STX
A sheet of 1/2" (actual size 7/16") goes for $5.98 a sheet at Lowe's here in SA. Depending on much is needed, a wholesale lumber yard might be able to get you a better deal - I know the lumber yards I deal with give me a discount, as well as Lowe's.
At the Home Depots here in Atlanta the price for 7/16 osb is $4.96 a sheet. I'm using it for the ceiling in my garage.


