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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by c0ckac0la
We were expecting a Baldwin to be fair and balanced??? This is what becomes of all B-list actors--they take any job that will get them more exposure. BTW, kosher food is all prepared in a very respectful and peaceful way.
It doesn't matter who's narrating the video, there's no excuse for the cruelty animals endure on the way to our barbeque's.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 01:44 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
I love my beef, pork, and poultry. I'll never be a vegetarian. With that said there is no reason to be inhumane. There are humane ways to carry out their job and I'd pay extra for meat that was prepared in a humane way.

There is no reason to be cruel.
Agreed.

I didn't watch the video, I don't download many videos but I have a good idea what was in it.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 02:11 AM
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Just because I don’t hunt myself, doesn’t mean I think it’s wrong.

I don’t care if you use an AR-15 to hunt deer while you’re sitting high up on the tree line in your “sporting goods store tree house”

I don’t care if you’re using the latest, most powerful scope with night vision.

I don’t care if you spent 2k on camouflage clothing to blend into the background while you skilfully sit high atop the trees, waiting for the deer to walk under you.

And finally, I don’t care if, as you sit there, you blow the deer away, as you sit high up in your little tree house.

But when you do all that, and brag about what a bad *** **** you are, gimmee a fawking break!
Put the gun down, and then tell me how tough you are.

When the deer have guns and make the playing field fair, feel free to boast away about what a bad **** you are, maybe some dummy might be impressed, but me?
I think you’re sad, pathetic, and a poor excuse for a human being.

I have relatives who hunt, but they don’t brag about it like some backwoods retard who thinks he should get a medal, or all high-fiving each other like they just won the super bowl.

And for the few of you who laughed or made stupid comments about the video of the tortured animals, you all should be ashamed of yourselves.

And if you don’t like what I’ve written? Too ****** bad (Habibi points to his nuts) I’ve got your redress right here!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Habibi
Just because I don’t hunt myself, doesn’t mean I think it’s wrong.

I don’t care
I don’t care
I don’t care

And finally, I don’t care
But when you do all that, and brag about what a bad *** **** you are, gimmee a fawking break!
Put the gun down, and then tell me how tough you are.

When the deer have guns and make the playing field fair, feel free to boast away about what a bad **** you are, maybe some dummy might be impressed, but me?
I think you’re sad, pathetic, and a poor excuse for a human being.
For somebody who doesn't care, you sure seem worked up about this...

And to compare deer hunting (a tradition tht goes back as far as man's history) into some guy making $1 a day in some third world butcher shop is to stretch the bonds of reality.

BTW, there are some of us who have been in the woods with animals that have guns...other human beings. They shoot at us, we shoot at them. You want cruelty? try that some time.

In the meantime, until you have worked in that industry (been in those woods, so to speak), how do you know that every animal processor treats it's product in that manner? How do you know it's all that bad? How do you know what the conditions are really like? I have experienced both working in the stockyards and working in a packinghouse, and I can testify here that the amount of science and technology put in to those environments would amze most anyone who hasn't been there.

Have a nice eco-friendly day
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:30 AM
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Baldwin is just a complete moron who has very little value to anyone. If he, or his Hollywood wacko liberal friends would like to impress me then how about a video depicting child rape and molestation?

You won’t see them kind of videos from those morons because they believe the perpetrator, the molester, the child rapist deserve a chance, deserve help, deserve the right to “not” be judged by other humans. These moron’s don’t give a crap about true homeless people (which are VERY few) or anyone else for that matter with “real” issues and “real” problems.

Why you may ask? Well, there’s no money in it for them, they do things that will bring in the big bucks, like shake downs on big business or other rich bustards that will pay them some big bucks to make stupid videos about animal cruelty.

While animal cruelty sucks and I agree that the video this idiot made only depicts a SMALL percentage of what really happens in my opinion, with all the other real issues, such as child rapist and molesters getting slapped on the hand 20 times before they do any real time in prison, the state of Vermont being the home and proud sponsor of child rapist and molesters, I really don’t care much if someone kicks the chit out of a chicken or smacks a pig because in the scheme of things, in the priorities of life, it’s really not that important to me.

Make videos on things that “really” matter and can “really” make society a better place to live. Once that’s done then perhaps we can start looking to see what we can do to make things better for animals…

Right now, priority wise, animals are so far at the bottom of the list I will be long dead before it’s “really” time to worry about them with so many other important issues at hand that morons like Baldwin don’t have the ***** or courage to address…

Don’t get me wrong as I love the two dogs we have and if someone ever tried to hurt them I would shoot them dead but I really don’t give a crap about some cow, chicken or pig that’s about ready to meet my dinner plate. So they get smacked and kicked around, who “really” gives a crap? I bet most, if not all that video, was shot up in Vermont since the state of Vermont just loves and adores child rapist and molesters they probably view this animal video as one hilarious comedy flick…
 

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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:39 AM
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01,

My only comment would be that we don't have to ignore one issue to work on another. I agree with you regarding how victim-hood is projected on perpetrators.

However people who allow, condone, or promote cruel treatment for animals, meant for food or not, are inhumane themselves. I couldn't image what mentality it takes to work in a place like that and not get sick.

With all that said I'll enjoy my ham sandwich today.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
01,

My only comment would be that we don't have to ignore one issue to work on another. I agree with you regarding how victim-hood is projected on perpetrators.

However people who allow, condone, or promote cruel treatment for animals, meant for food or not, are inhumane themselves. I couldn't image what mentality it takes to work in a place like that and not get sick.

With all that said I'll enjoy my ham sandwich today.
I agree with you and I can’t see nor will I ever understand why anything, be it human or animal should ever be treated as such, other then cat’s, but my point is some moron like Baldwin picks this particular subject to focus on, why?

Because he, as many others, has no real values, no real courage, to address the really important issue, either first, or along with issues like animal cruelty.

People like Baldwin tell us we should not judge the homeless, we should not judge child molesters, we should not judge gang bangers, we should not judge anybody that has no moral values of their own.

However, it is ok, with Baldwin, to judge particular people, like these kicking the crap out of animals. So, in the big picture, I look at it and make a logical conclusion that in my opinion I would much rather see someone kick the crap out of a pig and NOT judge them then I would to see a child molester rape and molest a child AND judge them and actually kick the crap out of them myself.

It’s just the whole Hollywood mindset where they decide who is worthy of judgment and who is not. Child molesters are not worthy of judgment because we do not know their background would be Baldwin’s position. However I don’t recall Baldwin making any mention that perhaps these people kicking the crap out of animals may have had troubled backgrounds which could be the root cause of their cruelty to animals, makes one stop to think just who morons like Baldwin will allow society to judge and who he will not…
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 11:39 AM
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I'm all for eating meat. Documentary videos like this are incredibly biased and only show the worst stuff possible, makes sense for them because theyre trying to get the point across. In the meantime, other companies make commercials to show how un-cruel they are to animals. Ever seen the , "happy cows come from California" commercials? Get real.... ANYWAYS, seeing this video just makes me want to beat the chit out of those farmer guys that were doing all the cruel things, not stop eating meat.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2007 | 12:04 PM
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Like said before. The video was severely bias. What you see in the video is NOT INDUSTRY STANDARD.

My good friend is a dairy farmer.. along with raising cattle to sell at market.

The cattle raising is very humane and the slaughter is no where near what is shown in the video. The cattle come off the truck and into "skinny" pens.. unloaded single file. Then they are brought into another pen one by one and slaughtered. Nothing like what is shown in the video, hanging live cattle by their feet.... not standard at all.

Chickens... I agree with them saying they're the most tortured harvest animal. In reality though, most chicken farms are not like that. Any the chicken slaughter process is not quite like that either. The chicken slaughter I saw was similar, but not like the video.

Don't believe everything you see on TV. None of what you hear and half of what you see.
 
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