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a little to much
Okay i am a firefighter and EMT and i have lights on my POV but this is over kill http://www.projectresponder.com/
I prefer a much cleaner truck. JMO
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From: Athens, TN / Louisville, KY
I too am a FF/EMT and believe that truck looks a bit tacky. Below is the comination of lights I had on my 1997 F-150 below I got my new truck.
48" All Clear with/red filter fully loaded MX7000
2 red and 2 white LED modules to the the front
4 red LED modules to the rear
4 clear strobe bulbs in the headlights (1 in headlight and 1 in turn signal)
2 clear strobe bulbs per each fog light
Two dash mounted LED dash lights
1 LED module in each side window
1 LED module mounted below the door above my step bar
2 Clear strobe bulbs in each tailight (one in the clear section and one in the red section).
200W Code3 Traffic buster siren/switch panel combo with pursuit switch.
2 100W siren Speakers.
48" All Clear with/red filter fully loaded MX7000
2 red and 2 white LED modules to the the front
4 red LED modules to the rear
4 clear strobe bulbs in the headlights (1 in headlight and 1 in turn signal)
2 clear strobe bulbs per each fog light
Two dash mounted LED dash lights
1 LED module in each side window
1 LED module mounted below the door above my step bar
2 Clear strobe bulbs in each tailight (one in the clear section and one in the red section).
200W Code3 Traffic buster siren/switch panel combo with pursuit switch.
2 100W siren Speakers.
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From: Farmington, New York
I also am a volunteer FF and the project responder truck has more lights on it than the entire fleet in my department. With that many lights it is just plain overkill, tacky and down right FUGLY!!!!!!!!!!!!
On my POV, I currently have a Star mini bar with a clear dome and blue filters (in NY the fireman run blues and the dept. chiefs can run red). But when I was an asst. chief, the equiptment consisted of the mini bar, red halogen grill lights with 7 selectable flashes (which I own), and a Motorola low band radio, 100w siren and speaker that the department provided.
On my POV, I currently have a Star mini bar with a clear dome and blue filters (in NY the fireman run blues and the dept. chiefs can run red). But when I was an asst. chief, the equiptment consisted of the mini bar, red halogen grill lights with 7 selectable flashes (which I own), and a Motorola low band radio, 100w siren and speaker that the department provided.
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From: Rochester, NY, USA
I'm with Tiny on this one - that's way too much. I too have a light on my roof, but I only want ot to be really visible when it's in use. That's why I have a clear dome with colored filters. If my dome was Amber, the bar would stick out like a sore thumb. OK, I guess it sticks out like a health thumb now.
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2stroked...............
I can't believe that I am about to say this but I can honestly say that the project truck will be about 6 times brighter than yours.....
......BUT (and this is a big 'but') your light will be a lot more noticeable because anyone coming upon your truck(or mine) with the lights on will not be 'blinded' due to all of the 'visual pollution' that the project truck would create with the lights on. 
I can't believe that I am about to say this but I can honestly say that the project truck will be about 6 times brighter than yours.....
......BUT (and this is a big 'but') your light will be a lot more noticeable because anyone coming upon your truck(or mine) with the lights on will not be 'blinded' due to all of the 'visual pollution' that the project truck would create with the lights on.
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What no roto ray lights on the front!!!!!!!
as a professional buyer for a municipality and a former firefighter in a volunteer department where I was responsible for our fleet of 10 trucks, this truck is over kill
what he has is about what is on a full size apparatus
what he has will confuse the public as to the type of vehicle and purpose
I have to fight with my municipality's PD aand FD depts constantly, they want the latest and greatest flashy thing possible
At least they let me design the systems we use, The PD and FD chiefs constantly get complements on the visibility of our units and hear complaints on many of our neighbors.
some time back both chiefs rode over to Montgomery to a meeting and they encounted 2 incidents that drove my way/point home, they stated that the scenes were confused by a blaze of brillant lights that confused them, you could not those individuals directing traffic much less where to go.
On the way home they encountered one of our neighboring VFD's that had asked me to set up a pattern on their rigs, they said that the scence was a massive change from the two earlier in the day.
They also came upon an accident in our city limits where they saw our units, they were amazed at the cleanness of the lighting at our scene. it dawned on then that they normally did not pay attention to this because their tunnel vision was on the emergency, not the public enviroment that they were in. they then realized what I was doing and have supported my ideas ever since
I do remind them that scene management and training make a big difference, how equipment is used responding or positioned on scene also make a difference in the management of the scene
as a professional buyer for a municipality and a former firefighter in a volunteer department where I was responsible for our fleet of 10 trucks, this truck is over kill
what he has is about what is on a full size apparatus
what he has will confuse the public as to the type of vehicle and purpose
I have to fight with my municipality's PD aand FD depts constantly, they want the latest and greatest flashy thing possible
At least they let me design the systems we use, The PD and FD chiefs constantly get complements on the visibility of our units and hear complaints on many of our neighbors.
some time back both chiefs rode over to Montgomery to a meeting and they encounted 2 incidents that drove my way/point home, they stated that the scenes were confused by a blaze of brillant lights that confused them, you could not those individuals directing traffic much less where to go.
On the way home they encountered one of our neighboring VFD's that had asked me to set up a pattern on their rigs, they said that the scence was a massive change from the two earlier in the day.
They also came upon an accident in our city limits where they saw our units, they were amazed at the cleanness of the lighting at our scene. it dawned on then that they normally did not pay attention to this because their tunnel vision was on the emergency, not the public enviroment that they were in. they then realized what I was doing and have supported my ideas ever since
I do remind them that scene management and training make a big difference, how equipment is used responding or positioned on scene also make a difference in the management of the scene
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From: Farmington, New York
Originally Posted by emdgealc
... they stated that the scenes were confused by a blaze of brillant lights that confused them, you could not those directing traffic much less where to go.
On the way home they encountered one of our neighboring VFD's that had asked me to set up a pattern on their rigs, they said that the scence was a massive change from the two earlier in the day.
They also came upon an accident in our city limits where they saw our units, they were amazed at the cleanness of the lighting at our scene. it dawned on then that they normally did not pay attention to this because their tunnel vision was on the emergency, not the public enviroment that they were in. they them realized what I was doing and have supported my ideas ever since
I do remind them that scene management and training make a big difference, how equipment is used responding or positioned on scene also make a difference in the management of the scene
On the way home they encountered one of our neighboring VFD's that had asked me to set up a pattern on their rigs, they said that the scence was a massive change from the two earlier in the day.
They also came upon an accident in our city limits where they saw our units, they were amazed at the cleanness of the lighting at our scene. it dawned on then that they normally did not pay attention to this because their tunnel vision was on the emergency, not the public enviroment that they were in. they them realized what I was doing and have supported my ideas ever since
I do remind them that scene management and training make a big difference, how equipment is used responding or positioned on scene also make a difference in the management of the scene
It is not always the 'quanity' but the 'quality' of your lighting. My dept. has a guideline where if we have multiple units on a scene and we still have public traffic going by, we try to turn off most of the warning lights on the trucks and leave for example the grill lights and lightbar on on the first truck, then the last one will have the rear lights and lightbar on. It just makes it so much easier for John Q. Public to be able to follow the fire police directing traffic and it makes it safer for the responding personel. 
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* Your two way radio transmissions all begin with "Breaker, Breaker"
* You have ever been dispatched to a working "cow" fire
* You ever put out a cow chip fire
* Your PASS alarm goes "Yeee Haw"
* You dispatch center ever said "Y'all can't miss it"
* You used your rescue air bags as furniture at the fire station
* You refill your air bottles at the local gas station "Free Air" hose
* Your department has a Rescue Bubba and a Rescue Cow for training
* You only wash down the floor in the station to "keep the dust down"
* Your radio call signal is "Wheee doggies"
* You have to mark the department out of service two weeks during deer season and every Sunday during the Winston Cup Race
* You bought a computer so you could get NASCAR Online on the Internet
* You count reading fire magazines in the bathroom as training hours
* Your last four fire department raffles were for a shotgun...and a member won it each time.
* You borrowed the department's quick dump tank so you could have a neighborhood pool party
* Your safety officer is the person who broke his arm at the last house fire
* Your rehab consists of a cold beer and a pack of "nabs"
* Your last serious fire was your fire department BBQ
* You used your "good" fire house as a bumper on your boat dock
* You have a shotgun rack in the back of your fire truck....and got two bucks on your last call
* Your Hurst tool is on loan to the local body shop
* You use a hanging noose knot for all your rescue operations because it's real adjustable
* You don't allow a person to join the department unless they own a pickup
* You wore a hole in your fire boots....while wearing them at your full time job
* You keep 2 packs of "Red Man" in your turnout gear for "emergencies"
* Your departments brush truck doubles as your hunting truck
* You voted against the last person for chief because he was a Gordon fan
* You painted your new rescue truck to look like Earnhardt's race car
* You borrowed the fire truck to use the spotlights for deer hunting
* The directions to your last house fire was "Go down past the last house you burnt up"....and you know exactly which house they are talking about
* You ever went diving in a swimming pool with your SCBA equipment.....just to see how it would work
* You must take the battery out of your tractor to put in the fire truck before you go on calls
* Your preacher borrows your PASS alarms each Sunday for church to keep the congregation awake
* You consider "2 in and 2 out" to be two guys in the cab and two on the tailboard of the truck
* The last girl you kissed was named Rescue-Annie and you enjoyed it so much you are thinking seriously about asking her out
* Your department has ever had two emergency vehicles pulled over for drag racing while going to a scene
* You have naked lady mud-flaps on your pumper
* Your firehouse has wheels
* You've ever got back and found you've locked yourself out of the firehouse
* Fire training consists of everyone standing around a fire get'n drunk
* You've ever been toned out on an out house fire also if that out house fire was with entrapment
* You've ever let a person's house burn down because they wouldn't let you hunt there ground
* Your personal vehicle has more lights on it than your house has lights in it
* You've ever walked through a Christmas display and walked away with at least 3 new ideas for a light scheme for your truck
* Your rescue truck can smoke the tires
* Your department's name is misspelled on your equipment
* The nurses and doctors turn out the lights and hide when you show up at the hospital to get your equipment
* Dispatch can't mention your name without laughing
* The local news crew won't put your department on T.V. because you embarrassed them last time.
* You've ever locked the keys in your trucks
* You've ever referred to a light bar as sexy
* Your defibrillator consists of a marine battery, a pair of jumper cables, and a fish finder
* You've ever taken a girl out in a pumper
* Your pumper has been on fire more times than it's been to a fire
* Your pumper smokes more than the house fire
* You've ever been arrested for indecent exposure at a house fire
* You've ever called it quits on a house fire when the beer got hot
* You've ever been late to a house fire because you had to stop and get the guy who fell off the truck
* You've ever stopped in route to pick up a road kill
* You hand out spit cans before each meeting
* You have a sign out front of your station that says will fight fires for beer
* Your equipment has chew stains down the sides of 'em
* Everyone on your department is related in some way or another
* You have ever been dispatched to a working "cow" fire
* You ever put out a cow chip fire
* Your PASS alarm goes "Yeee Haw"
* You dispatch center ever said "Y'all can't miss it"
* You used your rescue air bags as furniture at the fire station
* You refill your air bottles at the local gas station "Free Air" hose
* Your department has a Rescue Bubba and a Rescue Cow for training
* You only wash down the floor in the station to "keep the dust down"
* Your radio call signal is "Wheee doggies"
* You have to mark the department out of service two weeks during deer season and every Sunday during the Winston Cup Race
* You bought a computer so you could get NASCAR Online on the Internet
* You count reading fire magazines in the bathroom as training hours
* Your last four fire department raffles were for a shotgun...and a member won it each time.
* You borrowed the department's quick dump tank so you could have a neighborhood pool party
* Your safety officer is the person who broke his arm at the last house fire
* Your rehab consists of a cold beer and a pack of "nabs"
* Your last serious fire was your fire department BBQ
* You used your "good" fire house as a bumper on your boat dock
* You have a shotgun rack in the back of your fire truck....and got two bucks on your last call
* Your Hurst tool is on loan to the local body shop
* You use a hanging noose knot for all your rescue operations because it's real adjustable
* You don't allow a person to join the department unless they own a pickup
* You wore a hole in your fire boots....while wearing them at your full time job
* You keep 2 packs of "Red Man" in your turnout gear for "emergencies"
* Your departments brush truck doubles as your hunting truck
* You voted against the last person for chief because he was a Gordon fan
* You painted your new rescue truck to look like Earnhardt's race car
* You borrowed the fire truck to use the spotlights for deer hunting
* The directions to your last house fire was "Go down past the last house you burnt up"....and you know exactly which house they are talking about
* You ever went diving in a swimming pool with your SCBA equipment.....just to see how it would work
* You must take the battery out of your tractor to put in the fire truck before you go on calls
* Your preacher borrows your PASS alarms each Sunday for church to keep the congregation awake
* You consider "2 in and 2 out" to be two guys in the cab and two on the tailboard of the truck
* The last girl you kissed was named Rescue-Annie and you enjoyed it so much you are thinking seriously about asking her out
* Your department has ever had two emergency vehicles pulled over for drag racing while going to a scene
* You have naked lady mud-flaps on your pumper
* Your firehouse has wheels
* You've ever got back and found you've locked yourself out of the firehouse
* Fire training consists of everyone standing around a fire get'n drunk
* You've ever been toned out on an out house fire also if that out house fire was with entrapment
* You've ever let a person's house burn down because they wouldn't let you hunt there ground
* Your personal vehicle has more lights on it than your house has lights in it
* You've ever walked through a Christmas display and walked away with at least 3 new ideas for a light scheme for your truck
* Your rescue truck can smoke the tires
* Your department's name is misspelled on your equipment
* The nurses and doctors turn out the lights and hide when you show up at the hospital to get your equipment
* Dispatch can't mention your name without laughing
* The local news crew won't put your department on T.V. because you embarrassed them last time.
* You've ever locked the keys in your trucks
* You've ever referred to a light bar as sexy
* Your defibrillator consists of a marine battery, a pair of jumper cables, and a fish finder
* You've ever taken a girl out in a pumper
* Your pumper has been on fire more times than it's been to a fire
* Your pumper smokes more than the house fire
* You've ever been arrested for indecent exposure at a house fire
* You've ever called it quits on a house fire when the beer got hot
* You've ever been late to a house fire because you had to stop and get the guy who fell off the truck
* You've ever stopped in route to pick up a road kill
* You hand out spit cans before each meeting
* You have a sign out front of your station that says will fight fires for beer
* Your equipment has chew stains down the sides of 'em
* Everyone on your department is related in some way or another