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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:29 AM
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47's and 51's (As well as B-29's, and I seem to remember B-17's) flew combat sorties in Korea (At least according to the Military Channel they did), and were soundly whipped by the latest Soviet fighters, and Soviet & Chinese built AAA. This is when the jet age (already on the drawing board) was quickly ushered in.

(F-84 & F-86's -vs- MiG-15 & MiG-17's)
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 01:17 AM
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and the best thing about it, it's UNION BUILT by Union workers!
So it costs twice as much as it should and is put together shoddily?
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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So it costs twice as much as it should and is put together shoddily?
Are you nucking futz? Come on now.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
47's and 51's (As well as B-29's, and I seem to remember B-17's) flew combat sorties in Korea (At least according to the Military Channel they did), and were soundly whipped by the latest Soviet fighters, and Soviet & Chinese built AAA. This is when the jet age (already on the drawing board) was quickly ushered in.

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B17 and P47 never flew in Korea. Both were gone from the military arsenal by 1950. As far as prop fighters the Mustang and Corsair were really the only ones to fly there. At least 1 Corsair had a kill of a jet, but in general they were used only in the ground attack role.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:19 AM
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Are you nucking futz? Come on now.

I've been called worse, but mountaineer02v8 did say that it was built by union men.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:25 AM
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"Post-War Use
P-47Ds and P-47Ns continued to serve in the USAAF (and after 1947, the USAF) as initial equipment for SAC, TAC and ADC squadrons. In 1948 the Thunderbolt was redesignated the F-47. As more jet fighters came into the inventory, the USAF phased out the F-47 in 1949, but the Air National Guard continued to use it into the mid-1950s.

During the Korean War, the USAF theater commander, Lt. Gen. George Stratemeyer, requested that F-47s be sent. But, due to the shortage of spare parts and logistical complications, his request was denied.

Many countries in Latin America, along with Iran, Italy, Nationalist China, Turkey and Yugoslavia continued to operate the Thunderbolt, some into the 1960s. "


BTW, my favorite piston engine fighter of the Korean conflict has not yet been mentioned: The F-82 Twin Mustang
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
and the best thing about it, it's UNION BUILT by Union workers!
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER
I've been called worse, but mountaineer02v8 did say that it was built by union men.
Yeah, but there's a big disparity from the union marrineer's in and the aero machinists union I'm in.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Yeah, but there's a big disparity from the union marrineer's in and the aero machinists union I'm in.
It was a tongue in cheek jab a unions in general and Mountineer in particular.
 
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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER
It was a tongue in cheek jab a unions in general and Mountineer in particular.

UAW sets the bar for union suckage...

Everyone else aspires to reach that level (it seems).

You know its bad when airline pilots, flight attendants, UPS, Goodyear, dock workers and everyone else decides it makes more sense to walk off the job, than to do their jobs.

Heck, we're all getting screwed by the rise in benefit costs, and our jobs aren't guaranteed, and our managers can actually give us direction. You don't see us walking off the job.

Wal-Mart may have lost their way since Sam Walton died, and seems to be beginning to raise prices (Now that they have the market in a strangle hold), but I tell you- I stand and applaud everytime they lay the smackdown on a store that tries to unionize.
 

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:05 PM
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So it costs twice as much as it should and is put together shoddily?
We subcontract a lot of fabrication to both union and nonunion shops in the USA and Canada. From my experience, union quality is the same as non-union quality but union fabrication really does cost twice as much. All the quality at twice the price! Cha-ching!

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Old Dec 18, 2006 | 02:15 PM
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We subcontract a lot of fabrication to both union and nonunion shops in the USA and Canada. From my experience, union quality is the same as non-union quality but union fabrication really does cost twice as much. All the quality at twice the price! Cha-ching!

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