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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:08 PM
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I am possibly insane yes....

The Wii cant compete on a power level no doubt. I'll eventually get a PS3 but for now....nah...

But I can't expect you to be right every time even if you are a techie...

Blu-Ray....ooohhhhh....betamax....ahhhh
I agree, I don't buy into all of that techno-whiz bang crap when it comes to video game consoles. I have a DVD player, in fact, I have 3 of them, four counting my X-Box (Which I never play DVD's on). Download music? Heck, I didn't know my old XBox could do that (Right from the CD) until last week.

I was a serious gamer when I was in the 8th grade, and had another brief infection in 1989 with Nintendo's Super Mario Brothers, and again in 1992 - 1996 with Mortal Kombat I, II & III. But, after my wife bought my first Playstation (1997) I lost interest in gaming. She bought me an XBox in 2002, I may have played it 30 - 50 times in that 4 year span.

I started to get a 360, just to say I had it, then I thought why waste the $400.00.

Graphics are no biggie to me. I would probably still sit and play Super Marios Brothers II on the original Nintendo for hours, before I'd play Call of Duty, and have just as much fun, or Pac Man- and if I could find Zaxxon, I'd be happier than a maggot in a bowl of snot. Not to mention the games on the old Sega Genesis, like Jungle Strike & Desert Strike.

Blu-Ray, man- the DVD is good enough for me. I don't need all that 1080i yadda-yadda-yadda they spout at Best Buy. Just give me a decent picture with no snow, and I'm happy.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:28 PM
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Basically sony is trying to force feed blue ray down people throats and it seems not that many people want it. Blue ray does have it's advantages with space over any other format, which is perfectly fine for any data situation, games or just storage. There is no need for movies to be on that format. Blue ray is expensive, hence why the PS3 is $600. Thats turning off alot of buyers. Another thing thats turning off buyers is that there is no rumble feature to the ps3 controller due to the lawsuit they lost. Sony will also pay dearly for letting the Xbox 360 to be out for over a year before the PS3, at a higher cost, and not shipping nearly enough of them at time of release. All in all the PS3 is doubful to stick around very long.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:34 PM
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I just want to play really cool video games. I don't care about all the fancy acronyms, and I don't need something to cook my breakfast and wipe my butt. I just want to play really cool video games... So, PS3 does not impress me...
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 01:47 PM
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Sony's gamble is that the PS3 will drive the demand for Blu-Ray players and for that they are willing to take a loss on each console even at $600. I don't think it will work but we'll see. I personally don't see a huge difference between a 360 and a PS3 but who knows...

Graphics are nice but when games got so complicated that I got frustrated with them or had to buy hint guides to beat them I lost interest (Final Fantasy series).

Now I've played Wii sports and if Madden turns out to be as intuitive I think it's a lock as a hit. I never got good with juking and stiff arming with buttons but doing it with the Wii paddles looks cool. The boxing is pretty nice but if my golfing slice shows up in the virtual games like it does in real life I'll be less than happy.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Ive been to Wal-Mart a few times here lately.. everytime, i go to the electronics section to play the PS3... EVERY time I go, the PS3 is locked up. What ever game is playing is frozen.. LOL
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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For anyone who says the Wii is all about the controller "gimmick," they haven't tried one yet. It's INCREDIBLE fun. I couldn't stop laughing, sweating, or jumping all over the place when I played it at my friend's house. It was way more fun than sitting there and staring at the screen like you would on any other consoles.

Let's face it, hardcore gamers use PCs... they are better, and mouse/keyboard will ALWAYS > controllers for 1st person shooters, or any online games for that matter. People buy consoles (for the most part) so they can sit around with their friends and have a good time, together, in the same room, at the same time.

Nintendo always has, and looks to be continuing its legacy of delivering basic, FUN games that you just can't get enough of. That's what Nintendo does.

Ps3? Heh. My friend who is a game tester FOR Sony owns BOTH a Wii AND a PS3 and even he admitted that even the most anticipated game for Ps3 was a MAJOR let down. He said he is probably just going to sell his Ps3 and think about buying another one down the road if and when it actually has games worth playing. Pretty graphics? Even that was lacking according to him. And given the fact he is a professional, AND biased TOWARDS favoring Sony...that says something.

The Wii will dominate Ps3, it already started the march to domination...in due time it will only further the gap.

Blue Ray? Cool. How many people in America could actually USE the blue ray? Try about 1.5%. Do you own a 1080p hd tv? Otherwise, there is no use... And it looks like HD DVD may get the nod in the long run anyway...meaning you are paying a steep premium for a drive that won't have any use in a few years. Cool!

When it comes down to it, Ps3 is overpriced, under produced, and lacking in the games category...the one area that Sony USUALLY does well in. Sounds like a real winner to me. The Wii on the other hand had a fairly substantial launch, better than anticipated sales, and rave reviews...and not only is it doing well with the gamers out there, but as mentioned above it is tapping into new demographics as well... something that will also help it push ahead of the competition.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Impressive, but I seem to recall hearing that Microsoft once made $8,000,000,000.00 in about the same time frame.




YAY Wii!
That thing looks kick-butt! I like the interactivity of it
Yeah, if memory serves, Microsoft sold 1 or 2 million copies of Halo2 the day it came out. So, at $49.00 per copy, they generated anywhere from $49,000,000 to $98,000,000 in gross revenue (Depending on whether they sold one or 2 million copies), but- that's before the retailers and everyone else got their slice. If it's $49.00 though, Microsoft probably charges the retailers $30.00 per copy.

That's why no matter whether you go to Wal-Mart, Target, Sears, Best Buy, Circuit City, Game Stop or whomever, the old X-Box and the PS-II are always $149.00. That's "cost" for the console. The retailers make no money on the box, they make their money on the extra controllers, the "how to play it" books, and the other "accessories" you buy to make the game complete.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by khendrix2374
Ive been to Wal-Mart a few times here lately.. everytime, i go to the electronics section to play the PS3... EVERY time I go, the PS3 is locked up. What ever game is playing is frozen.. LOL
Heat issue. All the retailers have them encased in the plexiglass tomb. Sony's marketing department screwed the pooch on that one.

Originally Posted by azreael344
Basically sony is trying to force feed blue ray down people throats
Uh, say what? The PS3 could use grahm crackers for its storage for all people care... I'd hardly say their choice to use BluRay disks is cramming the technology down people's throats. And Why so quick point the blame at Sony? Just because they are the first to have a BluRay product?! Has thou forgotten about the other EIGHT major players in the BluRay game: Matsu****a, Pioneer, Phillips, Thomson, LG Electronics, Hitachi, Sharp, & Samsung. Yeah, that's what I thought. Let's also not forget about the couple HUNDRED other companies that support BluRay. Sheesh.

Originally Posted by azreael344
There is no need for movies to be on that format. Blue ray is expensive, hence why the PS3 is $600.
Seriously, step away from the computer. 'No need'?! The sheer storage capacity allows it to hold nearly 4x the amount of data over a HD DVD. That leads to more extra stuff packed on movie discs... more sound tracks, more bonus, more episodes on a single disc... there IS always a need for more storage. And BluRay isn't the only reason the PS3 is $600. Can you say "Cell". I knew you could... it's only a TEN YEAR collaboration between Sony, IBM & Toshiba for a next-gen computing platform. Not to mention the high-powered graphics card, large hard drive, wi-fi, etc... Try to find a PC with all those features for under $600. Oh wait, you CAN'T. While pricey, the PS3 and 360 are both a hellova bang for your computing buck.

Originally Posted by Vaderdude
Sony's gamble is that the PS3 will drive the demand for Blu-Ray players and for that they are willing to take a loss on each console even at $600. I don't think it will work but we'll see. I personally don't see a huge difference between a 360 and a PS3 but who knows...
Have we forgotten the X-box lesson? MS took a bath on the original x-box hardware. The money is in the games man! Sony knows this. It's worth it to release the consoles at a loss. The console is the free "crystal meth" sample and the games are what the junkies need. Everyone said MS couldn't make it selling the consoles at a loss. Who's getting the last laugh? Plus with a user base of over 110,000,000 I'd say Sony's got a damn good chance of making plenty of money on the PS3 and its games.

You won't see a difference in the PS3/360 until next year. The game developers are having a hellova time since it's a totally new platform, developers kit, etc... the entire architecture of the PS3 is a radical departure from what they know. Give it a year for the learning curve.

Man its tough to be right all the time and know it all...
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:47 PM
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I think the gaming industry started going downhill when they started letting you save your games and come back to them. Now you can just keep on going for months and months (which I did, to finally beat Halo, LOL) if thats how long it takes. I remember being a kid playing the NES and SEGA Master system, and pissing my parents off cause I'd leave the game paused overnight so I wouldn't loose my progress, and I'd start early int he morning just so I could play for 8-10 hours in a row if necessary and not loose my place in the game. You'd get to where if you were on like level 15 and someone kicked hte power cord youd' have to go beat the crap out of em because now you had to start all over at level 1.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 02:51 PM
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When it comes down to it, Ps3 is overpriced, under produced, and lacking in the games category...the one area that Sony USUALLY does well in. Sounds like a real winner to me. The Wii on the other hand had a fairly substantial launch, better than anticipated sales, and rave reviews...and not only is it doing well with the gamers out there, but as mentioned above it is tapping into new demographics as well... something that will also help it push ahead of the competition.
$100 (or whatever your comfortable with) says there are 2x the amount of PS3's sold than Wii's by this time next year.

Your right on the underproduced & no games. It's a **** poor product launch.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by mattadams
I think the gaming industry started going downhill when they started letting you save your games and come back to them. Now you can just keep on going for months and months (which I did, to finally beat Halo, LOL) if thats how long it takes. I remember being a kid playing the NES and SEGA Master system, and pissing my parents off cause I'd leave the game paused overnight so I wouldn't loose my progress, and I'd start early int he morning just so I could play for 8-10 hours in a row if necessary and not loose my place in the game. You'd get to where if you were on like level 15 and someone kicked hte power cord youd' have to go beat the crap out of em because now you had to start all over at level 1.
Hey give The NES' Legend of Zelda it's props....it had a cool gold case and a battery to save your progress; don't forget about the saves that gave you codes....Ninja Gaiden on the NES...14-pages of codes to save a level. I'd come home and mom would have "cleaned" up and all my codes were gone.

Now the Atari...that sucker got paused...River Raid was a pain to redo...


I think the PS3 will eventually succeed...it is a behemoth of a system but Nintendo got it right this time, unlike the N64 or GC (both of which I own and like)
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 03:28 PM
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Originally Posted by dzervit
$100 (or whatever your comfortable with) says there are 2x the amount of PS3's sold than Wii's by this time next year.

Your right on the underproduced & no games. It's a **** poor product launch.
Sony anticipates 1 million sales by this time next year- whereas nintendo anticipates 4 million. Microsoft hit 10 million in one year with the 360...

the difference is, the X-box 360 is just as good as the PS-III, and $100 - $200 (20 - 40%) cheaper than the PS-III.

If I was Bill Gates, I'd have dropped the price on the 360 to $199, and killed Sony's PS-III and Wii (Turnabout is fair play; Sony did that with the PS-II when the original XBox came out, Forcing Microsoft to cut their prices right out the gate (hence sales at a loss) to compete.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 05:04 PM
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I think its great that nintendo might actually try to meet demand. The controller scheme looks cool. I wanna play it just to see what it looks like. Graphics are great, but game content to me is better. No one wants to play a game that looks great but is boring.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 10:09 PM
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Some people are just jealous they can't afford a ps3 so they stick with the Wii.
 
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Old Nov 29, 2006 | 11:00 PM
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I'll stick with my Intellivision.
 
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