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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:57 AM
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ABCs "The Path to 9/11"

Have you heard of this "docudrama"? Does it seem like something you'de watch? Have you heard the controversy?

ABC-The Path to 9/11

Could this be one of thoes Micheal Moore type movies, or like that spare change (what ever that internet thing was) movie? Could this "docudrama" be a dramatization based on the facts?

The Path to 9/11-about the show

A bit about the controversy:

NewsMax.com-ABC's 'Path to 9/11': Bill Clinton's Inconvenient Truth

There's a bunch more out there. Google it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:26 AM
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Do you think the democrats would be in such an uproar if it was saying it was the republicans that screwed up. I haven't seen any dems complaining about mad up stories like Michael Moore's.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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It's a made for TV movie.

That in itself precludes reality.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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It is a drama, meaning it is only based on an actual event, not a factual retelling of the event. As you all know that means a plane hit a building somewhere, sometime. It just happens to be in our county, in our time. Drama means fiction. Unlike mikey moore's it is not being sold a documentary, so the dems need to get a life and let the fictional movie play.

Their objections only serve to prove they think the American population will believe anything that is in a movie. I have a couple problems with that. 1) They think the American population is so stupid as to not know that a dramatization is not fact. I think that shows a very poor opinion of their voters. 2) All of these movies/shows the left support, whether documentary or otherwise, were in fact an attempt to sway the opinions of the American people. The lefties would be the first to say it's just entertainment, but obviously they see it as something else.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 10:38 AM
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I always thought it was PRETTY DAMN OBVIOUS that Clinton's administration was the one to blame (if any, not sure blame should even be placed) for the security slipping
How do you guys always try to pin 9/11 on Clinton, when he had been out of office 9 months when 9/11 happened?

Who's the blame for empowering Osama (And Saddaam for that matter) (In the 1980's) in the first place?

It still amazes me that Clinton gets the blame for 9/11, but no credit for the stellar economy and record low employment we had from 1993-2000. Somehow, credit for that goes back past Clinton and GB, to Reagan, who spent more money than any President in History, rivaled (surpassed) only by GB:The Next Generation).

The CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, etc.. didn't resign when Clinton left, they were still in place.I don't fault George for 9/11, but this is not Clinton's fault either.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Bighersh
How do you guys always try to pin 9/11 on Clinton, when he had been out of office 9 months when 9/11 happened?

Who's the blame for empowering Osama (And Saddaam for that matter) (In the 1980's) in the first place?

It still amazes me that Clinton gets the blame for 9/11, but no credit for the stellar economy and record low employment we had from 1993-2000. Somehow, credit for that goes back past Clinton and GB, to Reagan, who spent more money than any President in History, rivaled (surpassed) only by GB:The Next Generation).

The CIA, FBI, NSA, DIA, etc.. didn't resign when Clinton left, they were still in place.I don't fault George for 9/11, but this is not Clinton's fault either.
So Clinton isn't responsible for the economy going to he!! in late 2000 and early 2001? Clinton and group had more than one shot at bin Laden and blew it.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 11:18 AM
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So Clinton isn't responsible for the economy going to he!! in late 2000 and early 2001? Clinton and group had more than one shot at bin Laden and blew it.
Clinton was to busy chasing skirts to worry with that stuff.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 12:49 PM
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Funny but when Reagan, Bush 41, Clinton and the W were approached by airline safety groups asking them to mandate that secure ****pit doors be installed (the kind of doors that would prevent hijackers from taking over the ****pit) they all refused to do so, bowing instead to the financial interests controlling the airlines.

In fact the W's administration refused to even meet with them.

Of course the W did finally agree (and promoted it like it was his own initiative) but then turned around and made the tax payers cover the cost.

And the only thing Clinton could have done to stop the economy from collapsing would have been to regulate the hell out of the stock markets and mortage lenders, something that would have had every republican in the country foaming at the mouth.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:24 PM
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How about this list.

* January 25, 1993: Mir Aimal Kansi, a Pakistani, fired an AK-47 into cars waiting at a stoplight in front of the Central Intelligence Agency headquarters in Virginia, killing two CIA employees.

* February 26, 1993: Islamic terrorists try to bring down the World Trade Center with car bombs. They failed to destroy the buildings, but killed 6 and injured over 1000 people.

* March 12, 1993: Car bombings in Mumbai, India leave 257 dead and 1,400 others injured.

* July 18, 1994: Bombing of Jewish Center in Buenos Aires, Argentina, kills 86 and wounds 300. The bombing is generally attributed to Hezbollah acting on behalf of Iran.

* July 19, 1994: Alas Chiricanas Flight 00901 is bombed, killing 21. Generally attributed to Hezbollah.

* July 26, 1994: The Israeli Embassy is attacked in London, and a Jewish charity is also car-bombed, wounding 20. The attacks are attributed to Hezbollah.

* December 11, 1994: A bomb explodes on board Philippine Airlines Flight 434, killing a Japanese businessman. It develops that Ramzi Yousef planted the bomb to test it for the larger terrorist attack he is planning.

* December 24, 1994: In a preview of September 11, Air France Flight 8969 is hijacked by Islamic terrorists who planned to crash the plane in Paris.

* January 6, 1995: Operation Bojinka, an Islamist plot to bomb 11 U.S. airliners over the Pacific Ocean, is discovered on a laptop computer in a Manila, Philippines apartment by authorities after a fire occurred in the apartment. Noted terrorists including Ramzi Yousef and Khalid Shaikh Mohammed are involved in the plot.

* June 14—June 19, 1995: The Budyonnovsk hospital hostage crisis, in which 105 civilians and 25 Russian troops were killed following an attack by Chechan Islamists.

* July—October, 1995: Bombings in France by Islamic terrorists led by Khaled Kelkal kill eight and injure more than 100.

* November 13, 1995: Bombing of OPM-SANG building in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia kills 7

* November 19, 1995: Bombing of Egyptian Embassy in Islamabad, Pakistan kills 19.

* January 1996: In Kizlyar, 350 Chechen Islamists took 3,000 hostages in a hospital. The attempt to free them killed 65 civilians and soldiers.

* February 25 - March 4, 1996: A series of four suicide bombings in Israel leave 60 dead and 284 wounded within 10 days.

* June 11, 1996: A bomb explodes on a train traveling on the Serpukhovsko-Timiryazevskaya Line of the Moscow Metro, killing four and unjuring at least 12.

* June 25, 1996: The Khobar Towers bombing, carried out by Hezbollah with Iranian support. Nineteen U.S. servicemen were killed and 372 wounded.

* February 24, 1997: An armed man opens fire on tourists at an observation deck atop the Empire State Building in New York City, United States, killing a Danish national and wounding visitors from several countries. A handwritten note carried by the gunman claims this was a punishment attack against the "enemies of Palestine".

* November 17, 1997: Massacre in Luxor, Egypt, in which Islamist gunmen attack tourists, killing 62 people.

* January 1998: Wandhama Massacre - 24 Kashmiri Pandits are massacred by Pakistan-backed Islamists in the city of Wandhama in Indian-controlled Kashmir.

* February 14, 1998: Bombings by Islamic Jihadi groups at an election rally in the Indian city of Coimbatore kill about 60 people.

* August 7, 1998: Al Qaeda bombs U.S. embassies in Dar es Salaam, Tanzania and Nairobi, Kenya, killing 225 people and injuring more than 4,000.

* August 31 – September 22, 1998: Russian apartment bombings kill about 300 people, leading Russia into Second Chechen War.

* December 1998: Jordanian authorities foil a plot to bomb American and Israeli tourists in Jordan, and arrest 28 suspects as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots.

* December 14, 1998: Ahmed Ressam is arrested on the United States–Canada border in Port Angeles, Washington; he confessed to planning to bomb the Los Angeles International Airport as part of the 2000 millennium attack plots.

* December 24, 1998: Indian Airlines Flight 814 from Kathmandu, Nepal to Delhi, India is hijacked by Islamic terrorists. One passenger is killed and some hostages are released. After negotiations between the Taliban and the Indian government, the last of the remaining hostages on board Flight 814 are released in exchange for release of 4 terrorists.

* January 2000: The last of the 2000 millennium attack plots fails, as the boat meant to bomb USS The Sullivans sinks.

* August 8, 2000: A bomb exploded at an underpass in Pushkin Square in Moscow, killing 11 people and wounding more than 90.

* August 17, 2000: Two bombs exploded in a shopping center in Riga, Latvia, injuring 35 people.

* October 12, 2000: AL Qaeda bombs USS Cole with explosive-laden speedboat, killing 17 US sailors and wounding 40, off the port coast of Aden, Yemen.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:26 PM
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The above list from here.






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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 02:46 PM
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How do you guys always try to pin 9/11 on Clinton, when he had been out of office 9 months when 9/11 happened
It's common knowledge that we lost over 50% of our human intel. personnel under the clinton admin. So yes, indirectly he is responsible. Fox news even brought this question to clinton the week of 9/11. He completely dodged the question on live TV.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:16 PM
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I find it interesting how much attention this "docudrama" is getting. Of course it's all lies. It's a right wing political move.

New York Post-BUBBA GOES BALLISTIC ON ABC
ABOUT ITS DAMNING 9/11
MOVIE


Think Progress-Tell ABC to Tell the Truth About 9/11

Was it a different story when the michael moore movie came out?

MSNBC-Fahrenheit 9/11’ scores with critics

Common Dreams News Center-Military Families Call on Bush to See 'Fahrenheit 9/11'

I thought that Fox News was the right wing news station. ABC is too?

It looks like the liberals might get their way, ABC might pull the movie. I guess if you whine and cry loud enough you're more likely to get what you want.
 

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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 06:44 PM
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How about this list.....................
Yeah but..... No one died when Clinton lied.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:18 PM
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we could also list the acts of terrorism that occured under Reagan and Bush does that mean they're to blame?

The sad fact is, four administrations (3 republican, 1 democrat foir those who want to play partisan games) refused to make airlines take common sense security measures because they didn't want to make the airlines spend the money, now we're all paying for it regardless of whether you fly or not.
 
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Old Sep 8, 2006 | 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kretinus
we could also list the acts of terrorism that occured under Reagan and Bush does that mean they're to blame?
Yes. They both share the blame. The recent actions of some of the former Clinton administration lead me to believe that they don't feel that they should share the blame.

You are of coarse referring to terrorist acts carried out by Al Qaeda, that happened before 1993, right?
 
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