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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 07:32 AM
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Things that won't help you thanks to lawsuits

Interesting article on things that could help you but won't due to fear of lawsuits.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...less_safe.html
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:11 AM
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John Stossel is a great reporter.

He is always doing these sorts of reports.

Our situtation isnt surprising when lawyers are writing the laws.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:13 AM
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Sad but true.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 09:53 AM
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Dude. Dude. Dude. What a jip.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:01 AM
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I just love all the attorneys "looking out" for me.....where would I be without them???

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 11:52 AM
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Lawyers are not totally to blame. You can blame people in general. It is greed and vindictiveness that are actually to blame. Lawyers are merely a tool for, and an invention of people's uglier side. Are there some less than reputable lawyers out there? Of course, but the reason there are so many out there yanking everybody's chain is because there are even more people who are willing to sue at the drop of a hat in the hopes of getting something for nothing.

In addition, this article is not exactly making me get all upset. Look at those represented here as being the poor kids who can't get their product to market - Monsanto, Eli Lilly, Dow Corning, Union Carbide, Merrell Dow. Uh . . . yeah right.

There are often very good reasons consumer advocate groups and such act on behalf of us, the little folk, against large multi-national chemical and drug companies. Granted, they are not always right, but often they do indeed do the right thing.

Just as I don't trust lawyers to represent without first knowing who they are and what they are really doing, there's no way in hell I'm trusting the companies mentioned above, and others like them free reign to crank out drugs that are supposedly going to benefit me. Read those lists of potential side-effects of any approved medication and then tell me if you want them releasing stuff without supervision or consequence.

Shakespeare did not mean that lawyers are the reason things suck when he said "The first thing we gotta do is kill all the lawyers!!" (paraphrased), however it is a fun, albeit foolish thought. In these times I'd add, "And then we gotta kill all the CEOs!!!!" And then add, "And when we're done killing all them, we should kill all the greedy bastards who hire lawyers" . . . and oops, no one left!

Ah, what the heck,

Death to The Man!!!!

Man, I gotta get out of bed and go make some coffee. It's too early to be trying to think without caffeine. Makes my head hurt.
 

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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The arguement that lawyers are tools is an interesting one.

The American people elect them, laywers pass the laws, exploit them, fleece money from those with money to those without it, get re-elected, pass and exploit new laws, get more money....repeat.

Wow I don't know who is worse...a greedy populous too stupid to realize whom they are voting for and what they are doing or the people smart enough to know better but just keep exploiting the system....

I need a coffee...brb.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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I agree that some of the companies don't have the best record for all products, but what comapny that produces product can say that everone they made was perfect. If Aspirin were to be invented today, it would probably never get FDA approval or be put on the market. Too many chances of side affects and lawsuits. Also on things like medication, where do you draw the line and say out of 1,000,000 people, if X many have problems it is a bad product. Even though it may save the life of many more people.
With lawsuits being an everyday happening and jury awards being so far out of balance, I can only see it getting worse.

Unfortunately with lawsuits determinng what is good or bad, there are many products that may be very helpful, that we will never see.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:13 PM
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http://www.fdareview.org/harm.shtml
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by kingfish51
I agree that some of the companies don't have the best record for all products, but what comapny that produces product can say that everone they made was perfect. If Aspirin were to be invented today, it would probably never get FDA approval or be put on the market. Too many chances of side affects and lawsuits. Also on things like medication, where do you draw the line and say out of 1,000,000 people, if X many have problems it is a bad product. Even though it may save the life of many more people.
With lawsuits being an everyday happening and jury awards being so far out of balance, I can only see it getting worse.

Unfortunately with lawsuits determinng what is good or bad, there are many products that may be very helpful, that we will never see.

Neither side is without blame. Personally, I think consumer groups do go overboard sometimes. I don't need a bottle that has to be pushed down then held sideways, while facing south-west, at 5:17PM (A.K.A. the child safety cap), and the numerous other things that defy common sense.

At the same time, it really isn't fear of lawsuits that prevents a company such as a drug company from releasing a product. If that were the case, there are a lot of meds out there that would never see the light of day that have been FDA approved. Believe me, take a pharmacology class and find out what is floating around out there and what it does (and does not) really do and you'd be shocked.

As far as what get's approved and what doesn't and lawyers, and the courts, and the "justice" system . . . It all comes down to greed. That is the foundation. Everything else is secondary. (And the watchdogs and such are not totally free from such considerations either).

P.S. Vader - Lawyers are not elected.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:24 PM
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Originally Posted by kobiashi
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P.S. Vader - Lawyers are not elected.


Man I'd hate to think they got there some other way...


The biggest problem with the large number of lawyers in elective office today is that even with their changed nature they increasingly control all branches of our government: The Legislative, the Executive and the Judiciary. This in contravention of what the founders of our nation were trying to avoid when they divided our government into three branches so as to provide “checks and balances” and a “separation of powers”
 

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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:31 PM
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Originally Posted by kobiashi
Lawyers are not totally to blame. You can blame people in general.
I have to disagree with you my good friend…

Lawyers are 99.9% responsible for the sue happy public we have today. It is lawyers who write the stupid laws, the lawyers who chase down the clients, lawyers who argue the case, and lawyers who make the big money regardless if their client wins or losses.

The best possible job to have is to be a lawyer because its about the only job I know how if you do well or not you still make some damn good money.

I do agree there are many stupid consumers but if it were not for lawyers the stupid consumers would get maimed and be homeless where they deserve to be rather then buying million dollar houses and fast cars to continue their stupid acts which make them even more money.

Lawyers ARE the root cause in what this country is today when it comes to sue happy, let the rapist walk, and letting the judge poke his stick up the divorced guys butt in divorce courts.

There are many good lawyers but there are just as many bad ones but know this it is the lawyers running this country…
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
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Lawyers ARE the root cause in what this country is today when it comes to sue happy...…

Gotta disagree my friend.

Laywers are both enablers and tools but not the root cause.

You want the root cause?

It started here:


Which begat:


Which begat:


(psst...I'm only kidding about one of those though)
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716


Man I'd hate to think they got there some other way...
I meant they are not elected to the position of "lawyer".

Now I see what you meant.

Carry on.
 
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Old Aug 9, 2006 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
Gotta disagree my friend.

Laywers are both enablers and tools but not the root cause.

You want the root cause?

It started here:


Which begat:


Which begat:


(psst...I'm only kidding about one of those though)

 
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