"Hey, we'll release Vista when it's ready to be released, not according to some schedule."
-announced today at the Annual Financial Analyst meeting


That's not good.

 

Yea they promise it will be secure and stable.

So far the best solution MS engineers have come up with is chaining the computer to the ground and turning it off.

 

So....never?

 

That's my guess.

Wait till Steve Jobs announces (right beofre Microsoft releases Vista . . . if ever, in which case Steve will announce it anyway) that you can run any Windows apps natively in OSX on intel Macs.

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if that can be done and be done in a manner which the apps do not crash....then Jobs will win.....cause I will switch.....

 

It will be difficult to accomplish with good performance and reliability.


You can dual boot but to natively run a PC app on the MAC OS will be a real accomplishment if it works well. I have my doubts.

 

third paty software out there already that can make it happen (and I'm not talking virtual os stuff), you open an app and you can run windows apps without windows OS

On the new intel Macs you can open Windows XP and run native (but it's still running Windows apps in Windows)

Run the Windows OS virtually (Parallels) (same as above but more limited)

Run windows apps without the OS (works, but not well enough).

You can't tell me Apple isn't working on this, or hasn't already figured out a way to do it. If made ready for prime-time, can you imagine. Microsoft would cease to exist overnight. That would be a good time to own Apple stock, become a multi-millionaire overnight.

 

Not everyone hates MS and loves MAC You know. I wouldn't switch. I like the MS interface.

 

Can't Windows XP be installed on a MAC now? If so, has anyone ran into any problems with this setup?

 

I don't "hate" MS. I'm just having fun. (Translation: I'm bored)

 

Yes. On the new intel Macs Apple has "boot-camp". You can start up the machine in either OS and then run native in that OS. You can not slop back and forth between OSes, you have to boot from each OS.

Presently, Boot-Camp is "beta", and of course you have to buy a copy of Windows XP.

In the next release of OS-X (10.5) bootcamp will be built into the system.

From what I hear, it works fine. I've only played a little bit with it. Speed is great, works just like any other windows pc, it's just that the machine is more stylish.

(Which is really important, don't ya know).

 

Until I can build my own Mac I think I'll stick with Windows. I only spent $650 on my current computer (not including my $300 speakers) and 1/3 was a sound card since I do alot of recording/editing and almost the same on lots of RAM for my drafting programs. I know Macs are good for photo edititing and stuff like that but they don't make AutoCAD and similar programs for Mac yet.

 

Correct me if I'm wrong kobi, but in the next OSX, isn't BootCamp going to be switchable while in one of the OS's, akin to switching user profiles in WinXP?

 

The new Macs with the Intel Chips are far and away the fastest computers I have ever used...

 

Rumor has it . . . but voices also say no way. New voices floating around say wait till the WWDC in two weeks for some kind of announcement about 10.5

We shall see.

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