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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 02:34 PM
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I watched HBO's Boxing on Sunday morning, and I saw Arturo Gatti get systematically annihilated by a newcomer Carlos Bladomir, from Argentina. They also showed Vargas get his clock cleaned by Sugar Shane Mosley.

They make a big deal about a fighter moving up from the 147 lbs class to 154 pound class. Dude, that's 7 pounds. And the commentators go on and on about how big of a deal it is for a fighter to move up in class to fight a "much bigger man"... Seven pounds?

I've never boxed before, but I've been in, and seen a number of street fights, and I've seen little guys tag-up on some bigger guys, and- as you'd expect, I've seen big guys, man-handle some smaller guys. What I want to know is, why the big deal is between a 147 lb man, moving up to 154 lbs. Can 7 pounds really make a difference in a fight?

I'd love to see, in boxing, the best fight the best. I'd like to see Floyd Mayweather fight Roy Jones Jr., I'd like to see Oscar DeLaHoya fight Lennox Lewis... I mean, they're all professionals- at the top of their game... Each capable of dropping an opponent with a carefully placed chin shot.

Am I off the mark here? Can someone enlighten me? I just don't see where a few pounds makes a whole helluvalot of difference.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:10 PM
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A couple pounds maybe but

Delahoya vs L Lewis?

Yea right.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:21 PM
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A guy that walks around at 180-190 lbs. between fights and loses to 147 against a guy that has to pack on 7 lbs to fight him? Yeah, it makes a difference. Bladomir isn't a newcomer. He's undefeated over the past seven years and he took apart the overrated, but sometimes dangerous, Zab Judah to get the title. Gatti has never quit in a fight that I've seen, until this one. He just couldn't hurt the guy and he knew it.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Maybe if its like 3.5 lbs in one arm & 3.5 in the other...that's more mass goin at probably a faster speed.


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Boxing is stupid, people are stupid...its sorta like that dumb dude with the shoppin cart. Why would you ever want to be in a vicious fight where you could die?
Why is dog or rooster fighting illegal?...
Boxing is probably the world's oldest professional sport. And, while I'm not an avid boxign fan, I do tune in when a major fighter is fighting. I still remember watching in amazement as a seemingly way too good for his peers Roy Jones Jr., systematically, and playfully dismantled his opponents, almost like a grown man fighting a child.

Sure it's barbaric- but, the arena fills up, and pay-per-view gets rich because people want to see it on TV. Some peopel think Football is barbaric, and more people die from football (heat exhaustion, spinal injury) per year, than does boxing...
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Dont more people play football, though?

I'm just sayin why do we beat the hell out of each other but ban animal fighting?...I guess animals don't have a choice, but still, its not like they think about stuff in the same manner as we do

Are you feeling ok today?

You need to get away from that college...they are warping your mind.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
Dont more people play football, though?

I'm just sayin why do we beat the hell out of each other but ban animal fighting?...I guess animals don't have a choice, but still, its not like they think about stuff in the same manner as we do
Most of them are smarter than we are.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:19 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
...I'm just sayin if we let people fight we should let animals fight...I didnt say we shouldnt let people fight (however stupid it may be)
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
...I'm just sayin if we let people fight we should let animals fight...I didnt say we shouldnt let people fight (however stupid it may be)
Allowing them to fight in a natural setting and using them to fight by training them for such is two entirely different things.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:29 PM
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What ever happend to the fighter.. King Hippo?

 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:32 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
...I'm just sayin if we let people fight we should let animals fight...I didnt say we shouldnt let people fight (however stupid it may be)

It's illegal for people to fight to the death. That's the big deal about c0ckfights and dogfights. It's very likely that one, if not both, of the animals will die during or after the contest. Not to mention that the animal generally has no choice in the matter, and doesn't profit from the activity. They put 3 inch metal spikes (spurs) over the natural spurs of a rooster to maximize the damge inflicted. The handlers are not immune to danger either. A well placed spur can kill a man as well as the other rooster.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:33 PM
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Originally Posted by FordWask
What ever happend to the fighter.. King Hippo?


He got a tummy ache.


Punch to the mouth
To the gut....left..right...left...right...repeat....


ding ding ding...

ah the memories...

The one I really hated was Super Macho man....you screw up one time on the timing and that freaking super punch would knock you down.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:35 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
He got a tummy ache.


Punch to the mouth
To the gut....left..right...left...right...repeat....


ding ding ding...

ah the memories...

The one I really hated was Super Macho man....you screw up one time on the timing and that freaking super punch would knock you down.

Ughh... memories of frustration... must hate super punch....
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
...maybe it should be a regulated sport where the animals are safely kept & trained & also benefit from their prize winnings...just to be fair

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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:37 PM
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Ughh... memories of frustration... must hate super punch....
Its coming back to the Wii...just so we can relive all that aggravation again.
 
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Old Jul 26, 2006 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
Its coming back to the Wii...just so we can relive all that aggravation again.
What is Wii? Is that Nintendos new system?
 
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