A Traitor Is About To Be Honored
A Traitor Is About To Be Honored
This was sent to me tonight.
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A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century"
BY BARBRA WALTERS
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in! the p! a lm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi .
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.
.................................................. ................................................
A TRAITOR IS ABOUT TO BE HONORED
KEEP THIS MOVING ACROSS AMERICA
This is for all the kids born in the 70's who do
not remember, and didn't have to bear the
burden that our fathers, mothers and older
brothers and sisters had to bear.
Jane Fonda is being honored as one of the
"100 Women of the Century"
BY BARBRA WALTERS
Unfortunately, many have forgotten and still
countless others have never known how Ms.
Fonda betrayed not only the idea of our country,
but specific men who served and sacrificed
during Vietnam.
The first part of this is from an F-4E pilot
The pilot's name is Jerry Driscoll, a River Rat
In 1968, the former Commandant of the USAF
Survival School was a POW in Ho Lo Prison
the "Hanoi Hilton."
Dragged from a stinking cesspit of a cell,
cleaned, fed, and dressed in clean PJ's, he was
ordered to describe for a visiting American
"Peace Activist" the "lenient and humane
treatment" he'd received.
He spat at Ms. Fonda, was clubbed, and was
dragged away.
During the subsequent beating, he fell forward
on to the camp Commandant 's feet, which
sent that officer berserk.
In 1978, the Air Force Colonel still suffered from
double vision (which permanently ended his
flying career) from the Commandant's frenzied
application of a wooden baton.
From 1963-65, Col. Larry Carrigan was in the
47FW/DO (F-4E's). He spent 6 years in the
"Hanoi Hilton",,, the first three of which his
family only knew he was "missing in action".
His wife lived on faith that he was still alive.
His group, too, got the cleaned-up, fed and
clothed routine in preparation for a
"peace delegation" visit.
They, however, had time and devised a plan to
get word to the world that they were alive
and still survived. Each man secreted a tiny
piece of paper, with his Social Security Number
on it, in! the p! a lm of his hand.
When paraded before Ms. Fonda and a
cameraman, she walked the line, shaking each
man's hand and asking little encouraging
snippets like: "Aren't you sorry you bombed
babies?" and "Are you grateful for the humane
treatment from your benevolent captors?"
Believing this HAD to be an act, they each
palmed her their sliver of paper.
She took them all without missing a beat. At the
end of the line and once the camera stopped
rolling, to the shocked disbelief of the POWs,
she turned to the officer in charge and handed
him all the little pieces of paper.
Three men died from the subsequent beatings.
Colonel Carrigan was almost number four
but he survived, which is the only reason we
know of her actions that day.
I was a civilian economic development advisor
in Vietnam, and was captured by the North
Vietnamese communists in South Vietnam in
1968, and held prisoner for over 5 years.
I spent 27 months in solitary confinement; one
year in a cage in Cambodia ; and one year
in a "black box" in Hanoi .
My North Vietnamese captors deliberately
poisoned and murdered a female missionary, a
nurse in a leprosarium in Ban me Thuot, South
Vietnam, whom I buried in the jungle near the
Cambodian border.
At one time, I weighed only about 90 lbs.
(My normal weight is 170 lbs.)
We were Jane Fonda's "war criminals."
When Jane Fonda was in Hanoi, I was asked by
the camp communist political officer if I would
be willing to meet with her.
I said yes, for I wanted to tell her about the real
treatment we POWs received... and how
different it was from the treatment purported by
the North Vietnamese, and parroted by her as
"humane and lenient."
Because of this, I spent three days on a rocky
floor on my knees, with my arms outstretched
with a large steel weights placed on my hands,
and beaten with a bamboo cane.
I had the opportunity to meet with Jane Fonda
soon after I was released. I asked her
if she would be willing to debate me on TV.
She never did answer me.
These first-hand experiences do not exemplify
someone who should be honored as part
of "100 Years of Great Women."
Lest we forget..." 100 Years of Great Women"
should never include a traitor whose hands are
covered with the blood of so many patriots.
That is first amd foremost OLD information and not entirely accurate.
* During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.
* Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.
* In 1999, Jane Fonda was profiled in ABC's A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women: True.
She is a lying POS commie pinko who ought to be filleted alive, but that is a different matter. FYI
* During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.
* Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.
* In 1999, Jane Fonda was profiled in ABC's A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women: True.
She is a lying POS commie pinko who ought to be filleted alive, but that is a different matter. FYI
Originally Posted by PONY_DRIVER
That is first amd foremost OLD information and not entirely accurate.
* During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.
* Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.
* In 1999, Jane Fonda was profiled in ABC's A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women: True.
She is a lying POS commie pinko who ought to be filleted alive, but that is a different matter. FYI
* During a 1972 trip to North Vietnam, Jane Fonda propagandized on behalf of the North Vietnamese government, declared that American POWs were being treated humanely and condemned U.S. soldiers as "war criminals" and later denounced them as liars for claiming they had been tortured: True.
* Jane Fonda handed over to their captors the slips of paper POWs pressed upon her: False.
* In 1999, Jane Fonda was profiled in ABC's A Celebration: 100 Years of Great Women: True.
She is a lying POS commie pinko who ought to be filleted alive, but that is a different matter. FYI
Or is it?
Ms. Fonda has repeatedly made statements apologizing for what she did.
On 20/20 she said:
"I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did, I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm . . . very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families."
and on 60 mins she said:
"The image of [me]... sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal of American forces and of the country that gave me privilege. ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,"
Just about any time she appears public she does this (apologizes), year after year and will probably do so for the rest of her life.
Should she? Probably. Is that too much of a punishment? Probably not.
She probably should be made to suffer the embarrassment.
However. She does express regret, does acknowledge her betrayal. That in itself is something.
It was mentioned she has blood on her hands. Hardly. She said what she believes and she did something not many people actually do. She stood up and took a stand and actually did something. Was it wrong and seriously misguided? Yup. But at least she took a stand on the strength of her convictions and didn't just mouth off (which you see a lot of here in the good old USofA)
You may not have agreed with her back then (she doesn't even agree with what she did back then), but she did have that right. I have heard many people say that although they may not agree with what someone may say or believe, they will die for the right to allow them to do so.
Well, no dying necessary here. Besides, she has changed. People change. That's a fact of life.
Y'all need to let it go. Forgiveness is something we should all practice. Holding that much hate and resentment all the time will eat you up.
Forgive your enemies. Embrace your enemies.
Forgive mistakes . . . no matter how big.
On 20/20 she said:
"I would like to say something, not just to Vietnam veterans in New England, but to men who were in Vietnam, who I hurt, or whose pain I caused to deepen because of things that I said or did, I was trying to help end the killing and the war, but there were times when I was thoughtless and careless about it and I'm . . . very sorry that I hurt them. And I want to apologize to them and their families."
and on 60 mins she said:
"The image of [me]... sitting on an enemy aircraft gun was a betrayal of American forces and of the country that gave me privilege. ... the largest lapse of judgment that I can even imagine,"
Just about any time she appears public she does this (apologizes), year after year and will probably do so for the rest of her life.
Should she? Probably. Is that too much of a punishment? Probably not.
She probably should be made to suffer the embarrassment.
However. She does express regret, does acknowledge her betrayal. That in itself is something.
It was mentioned she has blood on her hands. Hardly. She said what she believes and she did something not many people actually do. She stood up and took a stand and actually did something. Was it wrong and seriously misguided? Yup. But at least she took a stand on the strength of her convictions and didn't just mouth off (which you see a lot of here in the good old USofA)
You may not have agreed with her back then (she doesn't even agree with what she did back then), but she did have that right. I have heard many people say that although they may not agree with what someone may say or believe, they will die for the right to allow them to do so.
Well, no dying necessary here. Besides, she has changed. People change. That's a fact of life.
Y'all need to let it go. Forgiveness is something we should all practice. Holding that much hate and resentment all the time will eat you up.
Forgive your enemies. Embrace your enemies.
Forgive mistakes . . . no matter how big.
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
.....this is why, on TV, I only watch Sponge Bob & other alike shows, the insanity is just...INSANE!
Originally Posted by CrAz3D
.....hmm, deep strong words........probably why I dont understand the[m]
That includes not holding onto the hate and anger. We all gotta let that go.
Forgive . . . and keep watching Sponge Bob.
Originally Posted by kobiashi
One way to help quell the insanity is to not participate in it.
That includes not holding onto the hate and anger. We all gotta let that go.
Forgive . . . and keep watching Sponge Bob.

That includes not holding onto the hate and anger. We all gotta let that go.
Forgive . . . and keep watching Sponge Bob.

How true!!!!!
I can forgive and forget a lot of things, treason isn't one of them. I am not going to celebrate or accept anything she does, no matter how sorry she says she is. That's just me though. I'm not letting hate eat me up and I'm not letting forgiveness erase my memory. JMHO



