Well so in class today someone starting saying how the US only gets 3% of their oil from foreign countries. After spitting out my pop and laughing i told her she was on crack. I said we are 60% dependant on foriegn oil. She was like NO....She claims 60% of the 3% of oil we get from overseas, we use in our cars. And that the price of oil has never changed and its just the oil companies raising their prices and bla bla bla....

About the time i was explaining to her that we are now 60% dependant on foriegn oil and how its risen substantially in the past 10 years and how its all supply and demand is the reason prices have gone up. Well i had to stop and just sit back cuz she was screaming across the room and disturbing others. Freak.

So guys/gals tell me how much are we dependant on foreign oil? If anyone has a good source of exactly how much and WHERE our oil comes from that would be awesome! I plan on printing it out and shoving it in her stubborn face.

 

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Great info here
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/international/oiltrade.html

 

I don't know the percentages but I work for Sunoco Refining and we get all of our crude from Africa. None from the arab countries.

 

Thanks UC, i found the second website but the picture works well.

She then proceeded to claim we only get 3% of our oil from the Middle East. Well looks to me like we are getting about 17% from their alone.

 

60 is much closer to reality.....bus she doesn't live there either.

 

She is right to a certain extent- for a long time, most of the last two-three years that we've been taking it up the rump from Wall Street and Big Oil, the price of oil didn't change (drastically) in the middle east, or from any of the oil producing nations we import from.

But, we have in the last two decades gone from 25% dependent on foreign imports, to 60%. That's because it became cheaper for Big Oil to nickel and Dime the Arab oil field workers, buy a few ships and sail it over here, rather than pay Jeff & Bubba out in Midland and Odessa, TX $80,000.00/year to get it out of the ground in Texas, or Randy $110,000 a year to get it out of the ground in California. Mix that in with the Valdez incident, and a few tree-huggers and you have the logic behind why we import most of our oil from overseas, rather than pump it out of the ground here. That's why our dependency has gone up...

America isn't stupid or powerless. If OPEC cut us off today, along with Africa and Venezuela, gas woudl probably go to $14.00/gallon- but we'd have fuel to last all our lifetimes, and that of our kids. If things were really that bad, that 157 mpg F-150 we heard about woudl be coming to the market next year, along with that 260 MPG Volkswagen Diesel...

There is a lot of world left, and consequently, a lot of oil left... Saudi may be running out, but- don't believe the hype...

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In Texas, TXU has been farking us with higher energy prices the last two years because of the increased cost of fuel & natural gas. Our electric bill went up from an average of $142/month in 2000 - 2003, to near $200 in 2004, to over $300 and damn-near $400 in 2005. (PER MONTH!!!) Same house, same AC, same freakign temperatures (And in 2002 or 2003 we didn't have a single 100 degree day that entire summer, one of the mildest summers on record..) My house is not that big; just a shade under 3,000 square feet, one story, na vaulted ceilings, and well insulated.

The news did a report last week where they said only 3% of the resources TXU uses to produce electricity comes from natural gas... If that's the case, why have we had a 38% to near 200% rate hike in the last 6 years? To cover their cost increase, when only 3% of their fuel source comes from oil & natural gas? They're screwing us... They are all screwing us... Every since the TX Gov't released TXU from regulations, we've been screwed to the wall...

But, with 100 degree heat on the horizon, you can bet your **** my AC will be on this year... Only set to 79 this year, rather than 73, like I like it...

 

too many frenchmen....the whining would be over-whelming.

 

You mean England is an oil EXPORTER?

Why in the hell is gas so expensive over there then?
If they have enough to sell to us, why are they poking their automobile loving residents?

When I was in Saudi Arabia, their fuel was $0.11 a gallon (US)
Eleven *******ing cents! I filled our Hummer up at a gas station in/around Dammam for $3.00. Gas in the US, at that time was $1.64 a gallon. 14 times more expensive.

So, I guess today; if things stayed the same, that same diesel in Saudi today, if at 1/14th of the cost here- would be $0.21 a gallon. (I don't know what 21 cents equates in Saudi dollars, but- seeing that most of the Saudi Nationals don't have to work, and are paid by the government from their oil royalties; it's safe to say their money- however small, goes a long way.

The workers you see in Saudi, except for the journalists, and the ones who want to work, are all foreigners, mostly Philipino's, living rent free- but (voluntarily) treated a notch or two above slaves; from what I saw anyway.

Hell, if gas was that cheap here, I think I'd go fill up, just for the hell of it, from empty in my MDX- that'd be: $4.20...

Happy Days....

The only 6 cylinder engined vehicles I saw in Saudi Arabia in 1991, was our Deuce and a Half's (M35 A2)... (But, it was a big, powerful, old, but sturdy inline-6 cylinder, 10 wheeled, multifuel vehicle... I don't miss fixing them, but I do miss driving them!!!) Everything else was v8.

 

Arrrgghhhhhhh. Don't get me started.

Today I paid the equivalent of $6.89/gal.
Of that, 80% is tax which goes towards payng for my free healthcare, free pension and welfare payments to the illegal immigrants flooding Europe and the local White Trash who can't be arsed to work.
Of course, thats on top of the 40% income tax, 10% National Insurance tax and a flat 17.5% sales tax on anything else you buy.
Oh yeah, forgot the property taxes

 

tell me about it

Actually, the french are in the east, invade them all you want, but the oil is in Alberta, be warned though that the trucks used to mine the oil could easily be turned into gigantic military machines that will just drive over the white house and end the invasion.

 

Mine the oil???? (insert mean comment about your inteligence here).... they mine coal and some uranium in alberta and SK. There are zero oil mines in the world. NONE, ZIP, NADA just not a viable method to get to oil (typically 5-10 thousand feet below the surface)

But those mining trucks are huge, we have a few here in ND as well.

Edited to add: unless you are talking about oil sands, from which they extract and produce synthetic oil, in that case i apologize.

 

You might wanna do some research before calling one out. There are huge oil sands mines in northern alberta from which MILLIONS OF BARRELS OF OIL ARE MINED.

Google 'oil sands' and you will see. Here is a link to get you started.

http://www.energy.gov.ab.ca/89.asp

 

See what I added... I did say unless you are talking about oil sands, but from what I have been told and what I have found so far, all they get out is bitumen (an oil residue) from which they make synthetic crude.

I sure that they don't actually mine crude, they just make it from what they actually mine.

I apologize again, obviously you were talking about the oil sands.

 

Not to hijack but. I have read something about that, whats the deal?

 

They use water to extract the oil from the tar sands. There is some concern that there may not be enough water to process the full extent of the reserves. This is of course in the distant future.