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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:35 PM
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Heet is denatured alcohol which is a primary ingredient in the making of methamphetamine. That is why at least in California you can't by pseudoephederine without an ID and you can only buy a small amount. It really doesn't make a difference because they can get it by the truckload from Mexico still. Gotta love cranksters.
That's the way it is here too.
Also limited supply of aspirn and other over the counter meds.
Few months ago a preachers wife had bought some pain pill for her daughter then later that day developed a headache. She realized she was out so she went back to the pharamcy to get some more. They wouldn't sell it to her. After arguing, begging, pleading wit hteh pharmacist for a while, she finally asked another lady to buy it for her. The pharamacist told her if she did then she'd have to call the cops on them both.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:50 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
That's the way it is here too.
Also limited supply of aspirn and other over the counter meds.
Few months ago a preachers wife had bought some pain pill for her daughter then later that day developed a headache. She realized she was out so she went back to the pharamcy to get some more. They wouldn't sell it to her. After arguing, begging, pleading wit hteh pharmacist for a while, she finally asked another lady to buy it for her. The pharamacist told her if she did then she'd have to call the cops on them both.

The cold medicine's, aspirin, etc. etc. all have pseudoephederine which is the #1 ingredient in methamphetamine so now there are federal laws to regulate their sales, I wasn't aware of them doing it with denatured alcohol (Heet) now though. As of Jan 1 06 all pseudoephederine products are to be placed behind the counter. Some stores like Wal-Mart and Target started earlier because.... well cranksters love Wal-Mart I had a cold a couple of weeks ago and had to pull a little plastic advertisement on a peg hook in the cold remedy aisle and take it to the pharmacy and it took forever. It's a good idea in theory but it won't make a bit of difference in the massive amount of meth being cooked in this country. The only thing that will work is stiffer penalties. As long as prop 36 lets these a$$holes go through "treatment" instead of hard time it will not get any better. IMO hard time is treatment but hey it's just not good PR I guess.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 09:59 PM
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Whats funny is few cooks actually use thier products. They just sell it. So what good is treatment to a non user?
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Whats funny is few cooks actually use thier products. They just sell it. So what good is treatment to a non user?
That's true with rock cocaine but not for meth users...here anyways I'm only speaking of what I've seen of meth here(which is alot). Typically a few cranksters will get together in a cheap hotel or a *****hole house and cook it up. Usually the ones that start cooking have reached a point in their addiction where it is impossible to support their habit financially any longer. They start cooking and will use an absolutely obscene amount of their final product. And now with the rise in crystal meth they get higher, with less product.

I will never stay in a Motel 6, Howard Johnson's, or any other low cost hotel now because you don't know if your stepping into a bathtub where the byproduct of cooking meth was poured down the drain or you find that needle in the mattress or carpet that the maids missed. Believe me folks this is THE number one drug problem in America today and it's only getting worse.
 
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Old Apr 2, 2006 | 10:12 PM
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Whats funny is few cooks actually use thier products. They just sell it. So what good is treatment to a non user?
No they don't, but they die young from the explosion or all of the chemicals inhaled and absorbed into their skin during the cook. It's a pretty nasty business.
 
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 01:10 PM
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What's sad is that we never learn. Since eomone takes a perfectly legal and highly regulated product and uses it for an illegal purpose we are all punished. What's even worse is that some cheer this action and ask for more draconian laws regarding OTC medicine.

There's money in attacking the manufacturer and there's money in treatment. Add to this the fact that wherever there is demand, there WILL be supply. Be in coke, heroin, lead shot, booze, hello Kitty memorabili. So why punnish everyone for the actions of a few?
 
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Old Apr 3, 2006 | 06:31 PM
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There's money in attacking the manufacturer and there's money in treatment. Add to this the fact that wherever there is demand, there WILL be supply. Be in coke, heroin, lead shot, booze, hello Kitty memorabili. So why punnish everyone for the actions of a few?
The attempt is to get the cooking out of your neighborhood. It's dangerous, flammable, and puts a variety of toxic gases into the air, in the ground water and contaminates your drinking water. How successful it is, we can only judge by the number of labs that are torn down each year. In Northwestern Arizona and the southeastern part of California were the number one in the nation for several years in labs. Over 150 labs on average. Now in the northwestern part of Arizona, only a couple of dozen in the last year. Tighter controls on precurser chemicals in the U.S. has made a big difference. Now most of the meth comes from Mexico. No control over the precursers, and easy access to the border make it a big money maker. Make it harder to get the ingredients, and you make it harder for the cooks. You never know where a cook can be taking place. Your neighbor could be doing it right now in his storage shed and except for the smell, you wouldn't know it. Meth is not going away anytime soon. It's too additive. I know it's an inconvience for the majority but for now it's the only way to slow down the manufacturing. But as long as the demand is there, the product will be produced to satisfy the need. Hopefully more will be done in the future to help the addicted, as that will be the only hope of reducing the amount of methamphetamine being brought into and manufactured in this country.
 
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