New Jersey Internet Bill
Originally Posted by webmaster
Sure they do. Where does one of the largest telecom companies (and soon to be larger) have a huge business presence? NJ. Consider ISP's use their infrastructure, I would say that they have some leverage and lobbying power to get an idiotic bill like this shot down. 

Originally Posted by Raoul
If you are licking all of the New Jersey people off, will their member names be available?
I'd like to be 'Raoul Lovetrucks'.
I'd like to be 'Raoul Lovetrucks'.
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I think if any part of this bill that will not fly is part 3. I don't think the legislature will find it reasonable for the forum operator or ISP provider to provide the information of an individual to anyone. If anything, they will say that a court order must be received before anyone releases private information to someone.
Part 4 most likely will then kick in if a provider does not provide the information after a court order.
Part 2 only states that a provider will require those who register to register a legal name and address. For a provider to prove a legal name and address of someone who is registering will require them to obtain information that is protected. I think that if a provider takes reasonable care in maintaining their list and looking for obvious false information, and address those folks who provide false info, then the provider can not be held liable.
The Statement sayes that a provider must establish a reasonable procedure to obtain the information. It also states that the provider is only to be held liable IF the list in not maintained and the informaion not turned over. (Again, I don't think they will require the infor to be turned over without a court order.)
Just my .02
Part 4 most likely will then kick in if a provider does not provide the information after a court order.
Part 2 only states that a provider will require those who register to register a legal name and address. For a provider to prove a legal name and address of someone who is registering will require them to obtain information that is protected. I think that if a provider takes reasonable care in maintaining their list and looking for obvious false information, and address those folks who provide false info, then the provider can not be held liable.
The Statement sayes that a provider must establish a reasonable procedure to obtain the information. It also states that the provider is only to be held liable IF the list in not maintained and the informaion not turned over. (Again, I don't think they will require the infor to be turned over without a court order.)
Just my .02
Originally Posted by webmaster
We'll just stop allowing people from New Jersey from registering to post on our site.
HEY NOW.......Will you have a grandfather rule, or am I gonna sign in one day and get a message that says "Sorry the administrator says your from Jersey, you suck, go away, you're not allowed to post here"?
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The first problem is that there would be genuine issues as to whether New Jersey could apply the law to any forum operating outside of New Jersey. That issue alone would gurantee a battle in the courts for years.
Secondly the DMCA provides reasonably qualified liabilty protection for forum owners that would supercede state law, that issue would also be in the courts for years.
Bottom line, is, if they pass it it will be immediately challenged by the ACLU along with several other entities, which at the very least will guarantee the law will not be allowed to take effect for 5 years minimum if ever.
Secondly the DMCA provides reasonably qualified liabilty protection for forum owners that would supercede state law, that issue would also be in the courts for years.
Bottom line, is, if they pass it it will be immediately challenged by the ACLU along with several other entities, which at the very least will guarantee the law will not be allowed to take effect for 5 years minimum if ever.
Originally Posted by BREWDUDE
HEY NOW.......Will you have a grandfather rule, or am I gonna sign in one day and get a message that says "Sorry the administrator says your from Jersey, you suck, go away, you're not allowed to post here"?
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That sounds fair to me......the grandfather rule.
LT, I have a question. You have no pics posted(none of any subject), and I have never seen it discussed on here. You love trucks, but do you drive one?
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Originally Posted by bluejay432000
LT, I have a question. You have no pics posted(none of any subject), and I have never seen it discussed on here. You love trucks, but do you drive one?
Of course I do. And it was discussed....very early on when I first purchased. I do not post any pics anywhere on the internet. That's just me. Why, are you doubting my sincerity?
There is no doubt of your sincerity. I said I knew you loved trucks, I was just curious if you actually drove one, or if your husband did. I just missed where you discussed your truck. SORRY if I offended you in any way! Whew!
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