Off topic:

You must be in awesome shape Jerome!

 

[QUOTE=Jeromerino]There are irresponsible users in every outdoor recreational user group. If you wish, I could post a load of photos where irresponsible hikers, horse riders, and motorized users have caused damage. It's all about being a responsible user and it sounds like your experience with some irresponsible users have soured your image of mountain bikers as a whole. Labeling a whole user group because of the actions of a few is a slippery slope.

Welcome to Kretinus' "Modus Operendi"

 

It makes me tired just looking at those pics .

 

That trail in the photo was originally a game trail. However, it was developed further for recreational use, bicycles included.

Maybe I'll not fire up my truck anymore because I'm sure that causes more damage to the environment than my bicycle tires on a developed trail.

I do believe the poster I was responding to was specifically referring to a certain situation involving "ghost trails", or what is more commonly known in the bike world as "social trails". These are illegally poached in by the aforementioned irresponsible users. I do not support, nor ride these types of trails and abhorr those who do because they are detrimental to the access of their user group and the land.

 

It sounds like you live in Southern California if all you have run into is jerks on mountain bikes.

I agree with your view of following established trails for all user groups, but especially those on bicycles. The door has been slammed on more than a few trails in the USA because a few doofi couldn't keep their bikes on the trail.

The hand of man needs to be slapped.

 

Are you familiar with the Civilian Conservation Corps? In the 1930s they built trails all over the United States. They are some of the most well designed and best built trails in the country and have been since the '30s. Seventy years is 70% of your 100 year stream and many of those trails are still used heavily. I have yet to see a CCC built trail that has turned into a stream.

 

I want to be around a long time for my kid.

 

Ahhh it's just carbon monoxide for the plants.



I could be wrong, but I think Lee might have been running interference on this.

Your new; so it sounded like you could have been coming in here as a troll to get on to us for driving our gas hogs. (Hince why Mountaineer said what he did in the very first post.) So Lee was liley just pointing out that a bike does more damage than our 5000lb trucks, just like our 5000 lb trucks do more damage than a 30,000 lb dozer as an interception move.

Maybe we all have the wrong impression of each other.

I can assure you there are no tree huggers here, that can or would get on to you for anything. They'd have to sell thier gas hog first. I'm sure not going to be getting rid of any of my equipment or toys, just to get on to you for something that I do too.

Lets try this again:



Hi I'm PSS-Mag,
I drive a 2000 F150 XLT 2wd with 5.4L, with 2 tone wedgewood blue and silver paint. I enjoy print publication design, desktop publishing, marketing, IT tech, outdoor activites; to include camping, hunting and various motor sports. Currently I am a canvas specialist; I work as customer service for a canvas company making OEM covers and accessories for various power sport equipment from boats to snowmobiles, to motorcyles.

What is your truck? What year, make, model, trim package and engine do you have? What do you do for a living? When your not riding bike trails whast else do you enjoy doing?

 

alright, do i need to put on my spandex shorts and take a pic and post it.









i didn't think so.

 

Yes as a matter of fact I may have seen one or two.

That's a lie.
I camp at their sites almost every weekend thru the summer, I have walked many of their trails. Yes all of their trails are weather streams and have been since they were first built. If you don't believe me then go out there when it is raining and watch the water run into and down them. (I've been caught out there in the rain more than once)
Now fast forward a few hundred generations past our life times and looking at other things like the Grand Canyon for example. It started out as a flat piece of land back when what we now know as the Colorado river was just a mere stream.


Umm, I'm scared now!
If I see Lee post anything else in this thread... Then I'm sure as heck not opening it!

 

Riding wet trails is strictly verboten.

How about the Slickrock bike trail in Moab?

 

The thread is about where my truck takes me, so it would have been a hypocritical troll at best. My trolls are much more refined than that.

I'm not sure why, but my post count still shows zero when I have posted a few times after joining this forum about a month ago. My first post was an introduction.

 

We get all kinds of trolls here, most lack in morals and do not care if they are hypocritical. As long as they can get a few digs in before they are banned then they are happy.

We get 3 or 4, "Hi I'm new here" threads a week, til they've posted a few times most can't remember them all... or atleast I can't. I hope that's normal. But I've never claimed to be normal, so it's probably not. LOL

Post in the General Discusion section do not count on you post count.

 

There I bumped your introduction thread for you.

 

We can agree to disagree on this one.