"Moron" I admit was out of line, but playground tactics isn't name calling it's an accurate description of people who in the course of debate make allusions to peoples honesty and sexual orientation instead of discussing the issues.

And since one can read the posts and easily see who kept trying to stay on topic and who decided to make it a free for all of personal attacks, sorry, but I still have to take you with a large grain of salt since your bias is rather obvious.

 

Tell me something S-Crew, do you know any divorced couples, and if so, can you honestly say either party is being completely honest about the situation?

I don't, the ones I know always try to put the blame on everyone else and never admit their own contribution to the problems.

 

But how many accept that blame as opposed to slamming the other and trying to get revenge.

And how many just don't want their spouse to grow and change, they married person X, person X continues to grow and the other half would rather they remain the same person.

Control is one of the biggest problems in a marriage, one person wants to control the other and then chastises them when they don't accpet it.

 

Yup, I do know quite a few- unfortunetly you are talking to one. My take on it? There are two sides to every story, and the truth lies somewhere in between. My ex slept with a friend of mine. I found out because she "accidently" called my cell, and left a message for him. Very nice, and we had two children under 3 at the time. At the divorce, she told the Judge our marraige fell apart because I worked the 3rd shift. She got half of everything we owned. Am I bitter? nope- I wouldnt want her around anyway, and I'm in a far better place now. We are who we are based upon the circumstances we have endured.

 

Alright kretinus, no flaming, but some food for thought. First of all, do you think that you can put all of your thoughts into one post? It makes it easier to follow when each post is one persons thoughts or opinions, instead of the same person posting 3 times in a row. And if you haven't noticed, you don't get credit for posting in the GD section....

Now, back to the topic at hand. A lot of military get married at a young age compared to civilians. Think about it. At 18 they leave home and eveything they know, and get lonely. They want companionship, and tend to jump at the first oppurtunity. (Those of you in the military will smile while reading this b/c you know exactly what I'm talking about.) Now, at 18, you don't know what to look for in a life 'partner'. You marry. Then you discover that you really can't stand the biatch 3, 5, 9, 14 years later. So it's divorce time...

Wait, let's look at another situation thats unique to the military. We, as a group, have the highest adultery of anyone. Speaking of those lonely young military members above, wives also get lonely at night when their husband is away for weeks, months at a time. So they look for love in the first place they can find it. Husbands come home, it's either homocide or divorce.1

All of that is sad to have to say, but it happens. Thats why the situations are unique to the military, and since none of you were in Drllsgttra's shoes, and none of you knew his business or his wife, who the hell are you to judge? Maybe she didn't do a thing around the house, or care for the kids. I've known plenty of mothers like that. WMR, you of all people should know that sometimes these military wives are not that at all. In 23 years, you've seen and heard it all. So don't judge, kretinus, or anyone else, and let the man live his own life. I can never recall him either saying or even implying slave in his post. He simply said she didn't deserve it.

 

I wasn't aware of any credits for posting, I'll try to condense my posts though.

So that would be a real problem, but what do you do with it when it ends up in divorce, is it her (or his) fault for the other realizing they made a bad choice?

Is that all there is to the problem? How many soldiers (men or women) come home and can't adjust to the change. I can't imagine a soldier coming back from Iraq is having all that easy of a time readjusting to the change in enviroment, and spouses tend to be the first available target for venting. It's not a blame game, it's a human thing. But is divorce the answer?


We all judge based on what we know. Sometimes incomplete information leads to incorrect conclusions. And we all have to admit that during divorces, people tend to focus on the faults of the other partners and minimize their own rolls. Enough so in fact that how people act during a divorce can give insight into how they handled their marriage.

If my conclusions were wrong, I apologize, but this is the inherent problem with discussing personal matters like this on an internet forum. Maybe the answer would be to keep our personal problems to ourselves if we want to avoid whats happened here?

If you go back and read the post, you should see how easy it was to draw the conclusions we did. Again if they were incorrect, I apologize, but again as well, this is the problem with bringing up a subject like this on a public forum. We don't get to hear her side at all, and it would be wrong to assume that we're getting the whole story from him.

 

WTF are you talking about? Who the hell asked for pity? Who mentioned pity? Who even hinted pity? Some of this stuff you come up with is from left field. Either you are doing it on purpose or are crazier than a sh*t house rat. I'm done wasting my time with you.....w-h-a-t-e-v-e-r.

P.S.
I noticed you did not address my previous post about your initial response and holier than thou attitude......hmmmm...I can't imagine why.

 

So, this is your "justification" for doing the very things you were previously belittling everyone else for? Ok............................

 

I was just pointing out that you say your wife doesn't deserve anything, and I'll accept that, the question is, is your divorce because of a bad choice from the outset or did she change that much. If she changed, well can't do much about that, if you just made a bad choice (as others have admitted occurs for understandable reasons) aren't you just complaining about something you could have avoided? And why is it you can't have a discussion without resorting to profanity? Do you think it gives you more validity?

Actually I did

But feel free to bow out of the discussion anytime you want

 

So basically I called someone a moron one time in a post that was still on topic and that excuses all the slams and insults in posts that consisted of nothing else but slams and insults.

That's interesting to say the least.

 

Another....

 

Welcome to human nature. "He who cast the first stone..."

 

By that argument, I should just cuss and insult people and and skip addressing the topic at all since it's just a matter of escalation.

Right?

 

Actually you've resorted to profanity more than a few times, and you've done so in violation of the admins rules, I suggest you read the sticky that addresses specifically your fondness of using tactics to circumvent the profanity filters. There was no ambuguity about it, and the fact remains there's no place for it in civil discourse and it detracts from any valid arguments you may have made.

Now then, feel free to keep your word and leave the discussion.

 

Not starting a flaming war again, but you can't let it go either, can you?