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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz_H
Army, IBM, or Taco Bell - doesn't matter where the pension is earned, half belongs to each spouse in many or most states. The assumption is, I'm sure, that the stay-at-home partner is also working keeping house, etc. That's not a job that provides a retirement plan otherwise.
Jersey is 50/50.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 03:02 AM
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I was a stay at home mom throughout most of my husbands 23 year military career. It was a decision we made together. He was on various ships and other assignments that resulted in him being away from the family for months at a time for a collective half of his career. We made the decision that with one parent gone 24/7 the other should be home with the kids, not sending them off to the sitter.

That being said, I have basically worked my butt off for 23 years, I raised 2 children, maintained a household (i.e.. . .cooked, cleaned, laundered, shopped, packed, unpacked, repaired, arranged for repairs, prepared for many military housing inspections. . .etc), maintained various vehicles, maintained a yard (military housing requires you to keep the grounds neat), dealt with many different school persons, dealt with countless military housing and maintenance offices, done all of the move planning a couple of times. . .the list goes on. By my staying at home and making sure the home fires didn't become an inferno, I enabled my husband to go out and do his job with the confidence that things were being taken care of at home. If y'all don't think I deserve some compensation for the work, loneliness, frustration and exhaustion I have endured, well here, let me bare it and bend over because I have a spot for you to kiss!

Now, that being said. Yes, I am entitled to half of my hubby's retirement check. But I get all of it while we're still married and, what the heck. . .I've gotten used to the old fart!!
 

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:04 AM
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I've been in for over 17 years and have never agreed with that BS.

WMR...compensation for what? Being supported for 23 years? You might have done some work while he was gone BUT, the money/support he provided you with for 23 years allowed you to eat, have a roof over your head, buy clothes etc., etc., etc. He supported you for 23 years and now you are "entitled" to half his retirement? BS! BTW... yes, I was married, for the first 13 years I was in the Army. When we got divorced my ex signed paperwork waiving her "right" to my retirement in it's entirety! She knew she didn't earn it!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by wild-mtn-rose
let me bare it and bend over because I have a spot for you to kiss!

NOW WE'RE TALKING!

 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:35 AM
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Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
I've been in for over 17 years and have never agreed with that BS.

WMR...compensation for what? Being supported for 23 years? You might have done some work while he was gone BUT, the money/support he provided you with for 23 years allowed you to eat, have a roof over your head, buy clothes etc., etc., etc. He supported you for 23 years and now you are "entitled" to half his retirement? BS! BTW... yes, I was married, for the first 13 years I was in the Army. When we got divorced my ex signed paperwork waiving her "right" to my retirement in it's entirety! She knew she didn't earn it!
I think men get the shaft in most cases when it comes to divorce but in WMR's case they agreed she would stay at home care for the children and maintain the house. That is work. She sacraficed her earning potential in the free market in order to provide for the kids and home. He received the money but they both earned it. My wife works but if she didnt I would never deny her half my money if we made that decision together.

ZC *edited out LT cause I get easily distracted*....sorry about your situation. It is odd that he is the one collecting but I dont see much difference in the situation.

But can we discuss the real problem here? How the heck are you working and still getting home in time to cook dinner, clean, and bring him his paper?
 

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Fritz_H
Army, IBM, or Taco Bell - doesn't matter where the pension is earned, half belongs to each spouse in many or most states.
Exactly. Even when the law does not so specify, if there is a retirement account, it will be fought over bitterly in just about every divorce.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:48 AM
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That being said, I have basically worked my butt off for 23 years, I raised 2 children, maintained a household (i.e.. . .cooked, cleaned, laundered, shopped, packed, unpacked, repaired, arranged for repairs, prepared for many military housing inspections. . .etc), maintained various vehicles, maintained a yard (military housing requires you to keep the grounds neat), dealt with many different school persons, dealt with countless military housing and maintenance offices, done all of the move planning a couple of times. . .the list goes on. By my staying at home and making sure the home fires didn't become an inferno, I enabled my husband to go out and do his job with the confidence that things were being taken care of at home. If y'all don't think I deserve some compensation for the work, loneliness, frustration and exhaustion I have endured, well here, let me bare it and bend over because I have a spot for you to kiss!
Same with my wife. Without her my career would have never happened. So many Marines I worked with had high maintenance wives that ultimately caused them to have to get out of the military. The wife just couldn't handle things while he was gone.

Never had the problem. My wife took care of everything. At most she worked part time, so I could pack up and leave in a moments notice. She sold a house by herself, got ready for moves while I was deployed, and just made my life alot easier.

So Ms. wild-mtn-rose, on behalf of all of us we salute you for doing your part in helping to defend our nations freedoms.

Semper Fi!
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
I've been in for over 17 years...
She was your wife, not your freaking servant moron.

People like you should just give up any idea of marriage and stick with a hooker, your in the same class to begin with, you'll find a hooker much more compatible.
 

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by kretinus
She was your wife, not your freaking servant moron.

People like you should just give up any idea of marriage and stick with a hooker, your in the same class to begin with, you'll find a hooker much more compatible.

WTF are you talking about? Speaking of class.....you certainly demonstrated to all of us here what class you are in based on what you just wrote above. You don't know me, have never known me and have no clue what I am all about. Don't tell me you are another one of those people here that goes around randomly injecting their opinion on things you personally have never experienced....? Am I right?

BTW kretinus....If nothing else, I've got over 17 continuous years of Active Duty military service to OUR country and still counting.....what have you done with your bad self???????????????????????
 

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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by CrAz3D
I totally agree with this.

While y'all obviously had some tension between eachother after the divorce while you were still married there must've been SOME kind of affection.
Unless she did absolutely NOTHING in those 13 years I don't see how doesn't deserve some compensation.

CrAz3D....you have been around here long enough, you should know better. I appreciate your assumptions about my previous marriage and my ex-wife, however, you know what they say when people assume.

Let me clarify my opinion. I'm not against "the spouse" getting compensation(provided she/he actually contributed), I just do not believe it should be 50%. And, I think the two parties should be married at least 15 years of the persons career. I just don't think 10 years is long enough.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:03 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716

LT....sorry about your situation. It is odd that he is the one collecting but I dont see much difference in the situation.

It's not me!!! It's Zoo Crew. You must just have me on your mind.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:07 PM
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Originally Posted by lovetrucks
It's not me!!! It's Zoo Crew. You must just have me on your mind.

oops....your right....just got ya on my mind..... :o

LT...ZC....so similar...
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by vader716
oops....your right....just got ya on my mind..... :o

LT...ZC....so similar...

I thought so.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 12:38 PM
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Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
WTF are you talking about? Speaking of class.....you certainly demonstrated to all of us here what class you are in based on what you just wrote above
What you wrote clearly shows the neanderthal mentality that you suffer from so, I drew the only conclusion possible.

Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
You don't know me, have never known me and have no clue what I am all about
That's funny, you seemed to have defined "what you are all about" very clearly in your post.

Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
Don't tell me you are another one of those people here that goes around randomly injecting their opinion on things you personally have never experienced....? Am I right?
Hardly, happily married to my PARTNER for 15 years, during which time we have worked together to support and uplift each other and have shared everything equally.



Originally Posted by drillsgtjra
BTW kretinus....If nothing else, I've got over 17 continuous years of Active Duty military service to OUR country and still counting.....what have you done with your bad self???????????????????????
Is that supposed to impress me or intimidate me? It fails on both counts I can assure you. I do what I can with the abilities I have to help others, I see no need to brag about them.
 
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Old Feb 17, 2006 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by kretinus
What you wrote clearly shows the neanderthal mentality that you suffer from so, I drew the only conclusion possible.



That's funny, you seemed to have defined "what you are all about" very clearly in your post.



Hardly, happily married to my PARTNER for 15 years, during which time we have worked together to support and uplift each other and have shared everything equally.





Is that supposed to impress me or intimidate me? It fails on both counts I can assure you. I do what I can with the abilities I have to help others, I see no need to brag about them.

Don't come starting crap. If you're looking for a fight, go elsewhere. If you wish to change his mind, meet him in an alley. For now, just **** and get out of his buisness.
 
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