I was just saying it has a truck "frame" I wasn't talking about it's suspension or anything. It's got a fully boxed frame just as the f150 has. The body bolts down to the frame. The pilot doesn't have a frame, it's a car that's raised

 

The H1 has IRS

SUVs like the Rigdeline and Grand Cherokee are Uni-Body. Where as the Explorer and F150 are body on frame.

 

Exactly, and there is NO comparison between the H1 and exploder independent suspensions. I don’t even like the front suspensions on the 97+ F150 4x4s with that CV crap. Solid or semi solid axles all the way

Adrianspeeder

 

In a year or so I think I will sell every car/truck I have and get a lexus gx470 and bmw 550i both in black.

 

you need to grow out of old times there cowboy.

 

However, Honda would not put there name on a piece of cr@p. That is why they have a loyal following and a good reputation for reliability.

 

they did, it's called a Ridgeline, and a Pilot, and whats that half painted SUV or what ever it is they have thats shaped like a box?

 

You may not like them, and I doubt anyone really cares what you think about the Ridgeline or Pilot. There is a market for the Pilot and apparentley the Ridgeline. I would compare the Pilot to the Escape before comparing it to an Exploder ( I had a '99 Exploder and it was a POS, the engine literally exploded at 52k miles ). My point was Honda does not produce cr@p. People on here may not like them because they are a foreign make, but they have proven over the years to be extremely reliable vehicles.

 

Honestly??

I like the pilot, have you owned a pilot to compare to a explorer/mountaineer. I hear the mountaineers are full of problems.

 

I don't want to drive a Minivan/SUV, which is what the Pilot and that lexus you want really are I have no need to test drive a minivan, so nope, no comparison there

 

bet that minivan/suv doesnt have as many rattles as your american made hunk of junk...seriously, nobody cares about your opinions.

 

you guys kill me. I always wonder why most of you drive a Ford but say nothing but bad about them and say forign makers are so much better, but yet you drive a Ford? I'm lost on that?

 

I dont drive a FORD dumbarse....I am wondering why you even buy cars. do you need the amusement of trying to discover every little rattle, mistake, imperfection, or any other little minor detail? And seriously, foreign is generally the more quality vehicle. Look it up. You may not like them, like gb150 said, but dont dog them because of it, especially you.

 

^^ what do you drive then??^^

 

Jeep Liberty, and you can say it is still domestic..It was what I could afford and I needed a vehicle quick.

actually F that, I don't need to explain myself to you. I drive a Jeep Liberty.

for you to say foreign is crap because you dont like them is wrong, just say you dont like them and move on. Dont judge other peoples rides because they chose what they wanted to buy and you dont like them.