Ford Shelby Mustang on the streets. PICS!
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Originally Posted by buckdropper
show me an american car/suv that's a 4x4 seats 4 and goes like hell through the snow, doesn't breakdown and still gets 28 miles a gallon and i'll buy it.
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Originally Posted by Kool Aid
How about investing in the country you live in and supporting it's workers by only purchasing vehicles that are on the UAW list?
You foreign country supporters make me sick.
You foreign country supporters make me sick.
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Originally Posted by Kool Aid
Consumer Buying Guide - 2006 Cars and Trucks
UAW CARS
Buick Lucerne
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac DTS
Cadillac STS
Cadillac XLR
Chevrolet Cobalt
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Malibu Maxx
Chrysler Sebring
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Neon
Dodge Stratus
Dodge Viper
Ford Focus
Ford Five Hundred
Ford Freestyle
Ford GT
Ford Mustang
Ford Taurus
Lincoln LS
Lincoln Town Car
Mazda 6
Mercury Montego
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Mitsibushi Galant
Pontiac G6
Pontiac Solstice
Pontiac Vibe
Saturn ION
Saturn Sky
Toyota Corolla *
UAW PICKUPS
Chevrolet Silverado *
Chevrolet Colorado
Chevrolet SSR
Dodge Ram *
Dodge Dakota
Ford F-Series *
Ford Ranger
GMC Sierra *
GMC Canyon
Isuzu I-series
Lincoln Mark LT
Mazda B-series
Mitsubishi Raider
Toyota Tacoma *
UAW SUVs
Cadillac Escalade *
Cadillac SRX
Chevrolet Suburban *
Chevrolet Tahoe *
Chevrolet TrailBlazer EXT
Dodge Durango
Ford Escape/Escape Hybrid
Ford Excursion
Ford Expedition
Ford Explorer
Ford Explorer Sport Trac
GMC Yukon XL *
GMC Envoy XL/Envoy EXT
GMC Yukon/Denali *
Hummer H1 Alpha
Hummer H2
Hummer H3
Isuzu Ascender EXT (7 passenger)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Liberty
Jeep Wrangler
Jeep Commander
Lincoln Aviator
Lincoln Navigator
Mazda Tribute
Mercury Mountaineer
Mercury Mariner/Mariner Hybrid
Mitsubishi Endeavor
Saturn VUE
UAW VANS
Buick Terraza
Chevrolet Express
Chevrolet Uplander
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
Ford E-series
GMC Savana
Pontiac Montana
Saturn Relay
CAW VEHICLES
Buick Lacrosse
Chevrolet Equinox
Chevrolet Impala
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Chevrolet Silverado *
Chrysler 300
Chrysler Pacifica
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Charger
Dodge Magnum
Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
Ford Crown Victoria
Ford Freestar
GMC Sierra*
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mercury Monterey
Pontiac Grand Prix
Pontiac Torrent
IUE-CWA VEHICLES
Buick Rainier
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
GMC Envoy
Isuzu Ascender
SAAB 9-7x
Support union jobs in the U.S. and Canada
This guide is prepared by the UAW to provide information for consumers who want to purchase vehicles produced by workers who enjoy the benefits and protections of a union contract.
All vehicles on this list are made in the United States or Canada by members of the United Auto Workers (UAW), Canadian Auto Workers (CAW) or the International Union of Electrical Workers-Communication Workers of America (IUE-CWA).
Because of the integration of U.S. and Canadian vehicle production, all vehicles on this list include significant UAW-made content and support the jobs of UAW members.
However, those vehicles marked with an asterisk (*) are sourced from the United States and/or Canada and a third country. When purchasing one of these models, check the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN.) A VIN beginning with “1,” “4” or “5” identifies a U.S.-made vehicle; “2” identifies a Canadian-made vehicle. Not all vehicles made in the United States or Canada are made by union-represented workers. The Toyota Corolla, for example, is made in the United States by UAW members, but the Canadian model is made in a nonunion plant and other models are imported from a third country. To be sure you have a union-made vehicle, buy one of the vehicles on this list.
UAW CARS
Buick Lucerne
Cadillac CTS
Cadillac DTS
Cadillac STS
Cadillac XLR
Chevrolet Cobalt
Chevrolet Corvette
Chevrolet Malibu
Chevrolet Malibu Maxx
Chrysler Sebring
Dodge Caliber
Dodge Neon
Dodge Stratus
Dodge Viper
Ford Focus
Ford Five Hundred
Ford Freestyle
Ford GT
Ford Mustang
Ford Taurus
Lincoln LS
Lincoln Town Car
Mazda 6
Mercury Montego
Mitsubishi Eclipse
Mitsibushi Galant
Pontiac G6
Pontiac Solstice
Pontiac Vibe
Saturn ION
Saturn Sky
Toyota Corolla *
UAW PICKUPS
Chevrolet Silverado *
Chevrolet Colorado
Chevrolet SSR
Dodge Ram *
Dodge Dakota
Ford F-Series *
Ford Ranger
GMC Sierra *
GMC Canyon
Isuzu I-series
Lincoln Mark LT
Mazda B-series
Mitsubishi Raider
Toyota Tacoma *
UAW SUVs
Cadillac Escalade *
Cadillac SRX
Chevrolet Suburban *
Chevrolet Tahoe *
Chevrolet TrailBlazer EXT
Dodge Durango
Ford Escape/Escape Hybrid
Ford Excursion
Ford Expedition
Ford Explorer
Ford Explorer Sport Trac
GMC Yukon XL *
GMC Envoy XL/Envoy EXT
GMC Yukon/Denali *
Hummer H1 Alpha
Hummer H2
Hummer H3
Isuzu Ascender EXT (7 passenger)
Jeep Grand Cherokee
Jeep Liberty
Jeep Wrangler
Jeep Commander
Lincoln Aviator
Lincoln Navigator
Mazda Tribute
Mercury Mountaineer
Mercury Mariner/Mariner Hybrid
Mitsubishi Endeavor
Saturn VUE
UAW VANS
Buick Terraza
Chevrolet Express
Chevrolet Uplander
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
Ford E-series
GMC Savana
Pontiac Montana
Saturn Relay
CAW VEHICLES
Buick Lacrosse
Chevrolet Equinox
Chevrolet Impala
Chevrolet Monte Carlo
Chevrolet Silverado *
Chrysler 300
Chrysler Pacifica
Chrysler Town & Country
Dodge Charger
Dodge Magnum
Dodge Caravan/Grand Caravan
Ford Crown Victoria
Ford Freestar
GMC Sierra*
Mercury Grand Marquis
Mercury Monterey
Pontiac Grand Prix
Pontiac Torrent
IUE-CWA VEHICLES
Buick Rainier
Chevrolet TrailBlazer
GMC Envoy
Isuzu Ascender
SAAB 9-7x
Support union jobs in the U.S. and Canada
This guide is prepared by the UAW to provide information for consumers who want to purchase vehicles produced by workers who enjoy the benefits and protections of a union contract.
All vehicles on this list are made in the United States or Canada by members of the United Auto Workers (UAW), Canadian Auto Workers (CAW) or the International Union of Electrical Workers-Communication Workers of America (IUE-CWA).
Because of the integration of U.S. and Canadian vehicle production, all vehicles on this list include significant UAW-made content and support the jobs of UAW members.
However, those vehicles marked with an asterisk (*) are sourced from the United States and/or Canada and a third country. When purchasing one of these models, check the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN.) A VIN beginning with “1,” “4” or “5” identifies a U.S.-made vehicle; “2” identifies a Canadian-made vehicle. Not all vehicles made in the United States or Canada are made by union-represented workers. The Toyota Corolla, for example, is made in the United States by UAW members, but the Canadian model is made in a nonunion plant and other models are imported from a third country. To be sure you have a union-made vehicle, buy one of the vehicles on this list.
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Originally Posted by buckdropper
Let's see the first 1500 bucks of a new car goes to wards a retired UAW and sheet metal for a new car costs less. Its no wonder why quality has to be compromised just to support the UAW. Cars are jacked up in price because of it and then they have to just about give them away. Union workers need to think about the future soon or they won't have one in an american car plant.
As for buying american my F-150 which is now 9 years old came from canada???. My toyota came from japan, show me an american car/suv that's a 4x4 seats 4 and goes like hell through the snow, doesn't breakdown and still gets 28 miles a gallon and i'll buy it.
As for buying american my F-150 which is now 9 years old came from canada???. My toyota came from japan, show me an american car/suv that's a 4x4 seats 4 and goes like hell through the snow, doesn't breakdown and still gets 28 miles a gallon and i'll buy it.
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I thought all of you might find this interesting.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=42774
The person that wrote this knows his stuff. He recently (Jan. 8th) had dinner with Carroll Shelby and Hau Thai-Tang and all of the other Ford big wigs. If this is true, look out.
http://forums.bradbarnett.net/index.php?showtopic=42774
The person that wrote this knows his stuff. He recently (Jan. 8th) had dinner with Carroll Shelby and Hau Thai-Tang and all of the other Ford big wigs. If this is true, look out.
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From: Kansas City
Unions
I would say that a lot of people are misinformed about unions and the reasons behind them, what they do and why they are needed. It is not all about money and pay raises. In our current contract, a 4 year contract, we negotiated NO pay raises for the first 2 years. In the 3rd year we got a 2% raise and in the fourth a 3% raise. This was done because Ford was having problems at the time of the contract. Now, recently we voted to give up the 3% raise due this October and we gave up a portion of our cost of living raises for the future. We have done this as a way of helping Ford out. Well, since the current contract, sales have dropped. The company has not improved its bottom line at all. I can guarantee you we will not get a raise for at least the first 2 years of the next contract. So, in the 6 years we will only get 2%. The union does sacrafice when it needs to. It is not just about the workers and the money. It's about quality, safety, health issues, etc. You wouldn't believe some of the things that happen on the line and management runs over and gets the line moving. The union is there to protect its workers while providing a decent wage. I have worked there for less then 10 years and I already have 2 frayed rotator cuffs, my elbows hurt, my fingers and hands go numb at night. People think it is an easy job, but it's not always. Not all of us mop floors or just sit around and do nothing.
My biggest problem with the company as a whole is that the designs of their cars are too plain. Young buyers today want "bling" and Ford has not been giving them that. That is why people aren't buying them. They are not exciting and cool. I do like the new cars coming out.
Anyway, I ranted enough. Remember unions brought about the 40 hr work week. The 5 day work week, health care for employees, OSHA, paid days off, vacation, holidays, etc. If you think the nice companies just gave these away as a good gesture to their workers, get real. Have you ever heard about the day in the life of a Japanese worker. The day starts at 5:00 and ends around 10:00 pm. They are expected to do it and not complain. Crazy!!
One last note.....the new Ford Fusion is made in Mexico where the employees are paid very very little. The car costs the same or more then its competitors. Ford does not pass the cost savings on to the consumer. So, if the union took a huge pay cut, Ford is not going to lower their prices to match the cut. Back in the late 90's when things were going great for Ford, record sales, record profits, do you think they set aside millions for the mounting health care expenses and pensions that they knew were going to hit them down the road?? No. Ford knew the retired work force was going to grow and here they are today talking about the cost of retirees, healthcare, etc is killing them.
I heard that the new chinese car that will be imported here will cost $10,000 and the workers are paid $3.50 per hour. Just a thought.
My biggest problem with the company as a whole is that the designs of their cars are too plain. Young buyers today want "bling" and Ford has not been giving them that. That is why people aren't buying them. They are not exciting and cool. I do like the new cars coming out.
Anyway, I ranted enough. Remember unions brought about the 40 hr work week. The 5 day work week, health care for employees, OSHA, paid days off, vacation, holidays, etc. If you think the nice companies just gave these away as a good gesture to their workers, get real. Have you ever heard about the day in the life of a Japanese worker. The day starts at 5:00 and ends around 10:00 pm. They are expected to do it and not complain. Crazy!!
One last note.....the new Ford Fusion is made in Mexico where the employees are paid very very little. The car costs the same or more then its competitors. Ford does not pass the cost savings on to the consumer. So, if the union took a huge pay cut, Ford is not going to lower their prices to match the cut. Back in the late 90's when things were going great for Ford, record sales, record profits, do you think they set aside millions for the mounting health care expenses and pensions that they knew were going to hit them down the road?? No. Ford knew the retired work force was going to grow and here they are today talking about the cost of retirees, healthcare, etc is killing them.
I heard that the new chinese car that will be imported here will cost $10,000 and the workers are paid $3.50 per hour. Just a thought.
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Remember unions brought about the 40 hr work week. The 5 day work week, health care for employees, OSHA, paid days off, vacation, holidays, etc
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From: Clarence, NY
Originally Posted by l-menace
http://motownmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=20841
Quasi-lightning related, as it hints at the technology that may be in the next lightning, ie, the supercharger.
Quasi-lightning related, as it hints at the technology that may be in the next lightning, ie, the supercharger.
Ok, back on track. IMO, this car is hot as hell. I don't care how much it weighs etc. I LIKE THIS CAR!! This car looks BAD *SS!! I would buy this over any foreign car made. Sorry, but i'm just partial to the old look of the '60's american muscle with todays performance.....
And geez, how about that, Chevy is thinking of bringing back the Camaro, which looks as hot as ever...hmmmm....Ford, the trend setter once again. I can't wait until the Ford vs. Chevy battle is alive again!!
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Thrill Racing...
but you do get overtime after 40 Hrs or are paid accordingly as a salaried worker. Sprint had been laying off workers for the past few years. What happens with the work that the laid off worker was doing. They just pile it on someone else and say do it or you lose your job. Unions are there to prevent that from happening.
Just because a vehicle is made in the USA doesn't mean that the profits stay in the USA. You know as well as I that the profits from Toyota of America either go back to the headquarters in Japan or money is taken out as and expense and paid to the parent company. Just like Ford selling cars in Europe or Japan or wherever comes back to the USA. The problem lies in the fact that there is a HUGE trade imbalance between most countries and the USA.
I would imagine that if and when things get tough for the Japanese manufacturers all they have to do is pull their factorys out of the US and move them somewhere else. They didn't build the factories with the thought that "we will provide jobs for the american workers".
BTW, I love that Mustang. my brother in law had an 05 GT, black and it was awesome!!
Just because a vehicle is made in the USA doesn't mean that the profits stay in the USA. You know as well as I that the profits from Toyota of America either go back to the headquarters in Japan or money is taken out as and expense and paid to the parent company. Just like Ford selling cars in Europe or Japan or wherever comes back to the USA. The problem lies in the fact that there is a HUGE trade imbalance between most countries and the USA.
I would imagine that if and when things get tough for the Japanese manufacturers all they have to do is pull their factorys out of the US and move them somewhere else. They didn't build the factories with the thought that "we will provide jobs for the american workers".
BTW, I love that Mustang. my brother in law had an 05 GT, black and it was awesome!!
