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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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Did you take the fuel line off and turn the key to run to see if gas flowed?
yes, nothing
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by PonyF150
yes, nothing
ohhhh...

If you checked the fuses under the hood, switched the fuel pump relay for another one to test it, checked the fuel pump reset switch. Then it's going to be the fuel pump.

Geez, dang it. I was hoping for something simple.
You can take it to the shop if you want, but it's really not hard to do yourself.
Normally I unplug the tail lights, undo the bolt (or screws) inside the fuel cap to release the filler neck, take out the 6 bed bolts, then have 3 of my buddies help me pick it the bed up and off. Then you have full access to unplug and pull the fuel pump out of the tank. Drop the new one in plug it in and put it all back togther again.

But.....
Since you said that you might have gotten bad gas, this could have been the culprit for your problem, so you might want to dump the tank and start with fresh.
So I would, take the bolts (or screws) out from the inside of the fuel door, use a floor jack and a 2x4 or 2x6 or 2x"larger" to support the fuel tank, take the 4 bolts out of the gas tank straps. Then lower the tank slightly. Reach up and unplug the fuel pump, then the fuel line. Lower tank remove fuel pump and dump the tank out. Install new pump then install tank in reverse.
Be very careful, gas will enevitably run down several times during this process, since your underneath it you dont want it in your eyes. If you have Googles, I recomend using them.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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yeah, its not hard to drop the tank. i did mine when i replaced the sender. it was easy for me though cus i made sure the tank was empty.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 06:16 PM
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Hey here's my welcome to the site for ya!

I haven't done it on this body style F150, but I did the similar type tank on the '02 and it wasn't too bad to drop it. Now a full 33 gallon steel tank on a Bronco on the other hand is a complete pain in the azz. Still would shy away from the stealership doing the job though.

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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:58 PM
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ugh, not what i wanted to do for christmas... i guess it would be a good idea to start fresh, it's just going to kill me to dump $20 of gas. before i change anything at the pump i want to assure that the pump itself is getting power by using a tester.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:02 PM
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ugh, not what i wanted to do for christmas... i guess it would be a good idea to start fresh, it's just going to kill me to dump $20 of gas. before i change anything at the pump i want to assure that the pump itself is getting power by using a tester.
Absolutely. maybe the connector came unplugged. Never just throw parts at something without troubleshooting it first to verify the problem.
 
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:47 PM
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You bet!
Make sure it's getting power first!
Slap the volt meter on the fuel pump plug and have somebody cycle the key to the run position.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:44 PM
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I want to siphon the tank before i drop it, has anyone done this before?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:51 PM
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I want to siphon the tank before i drop it, has anyone done this before?
i think most have anti siphon valves or small holes so a hose wont fit in. i did it on the stang this summer and managed it using a cheap siphon pump from harbor freight ($10). you'll be disconnecting the filler neck so you can stuff the hose in there.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 09:53 PM
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I do not know of an easy way to do it.

You're tank is equiped with an anti siphon screen, so you have to remove the filler neck to get a siphon hose in the tank. To take the filler neck off, you have to lower the tank.

I've done it on various vehicles with a full tank before. Just use a sturdy jack with 2x's to support the tank, and lower it. Do not use a jack that slams down when you lower it. Make sure that you can lower the jack slowly.

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I have used one of the cheap hydrolic trolley jacks with some 2x4's before. But becareful, those jacks do tend to slam down when you barely crack the valve to lower them.
 

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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:11 PM
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So I take it that the pump is getting power?
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by lees99f150
i think most have anti siphon valves or small holes so a hose wont fit in. i did it on the stang this summer and managed it using a cheap siphon pump from harbor freight ($10). you'll be disconnecting the filler neck so you can stuff the hose in there.
now when you say disconnect the hose for dropping the tank, do you mean at the cap or half way down. cause it looks like the first half of the tube is mounted to the truck.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:24 PM
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i think i slid the tank away from the tube. there is a sender or breather on top of the tank in a grommet toward the rear what you might be able to put a siphon hose in. dropping the tank full is possible it just take a little skill not to drop it off the jack. once off you can drain it and clean it.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:26 PM
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It will connect at the tank with hose clamps and onto the filler tube the same way. Sometimes you will need to unbolt the filler from the body, inside the fuel door.

Didn't see how much gas is in the tank, but if you unhook the pressure line, you may be able to route it into a can, and pressurize the tank with an airhose and a rag at the filler. Try to turn the air line pressure down some when doing this.

When looking for a new pump, don't just bypass the dealer, some of their pricing is very competitive, and if i could buy a factory pump, for a few dollars more than an aftermarket, i would go with it.

Corrosion is a big problem around here with the winters and the ice melt the plow trucks drop on the road. Again failed to notice where you are at, but if you get hateful winters then deffinatly take a good look at the connector going to the pump.
 
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Old Dec 26, 2005 | 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by shtrdave
It will connect at the tank with hose clamps and onto the filler tube the same way. Sometimes you will need to unbolt the filler from the body, inside the fuel door.

Didn't see how much gas is in the tank, but if you unhook the pressure line, you may be able to route it into a can, and pressurize the tank with an airhose and a rag at the filler. Try to turn the air line pressure down some when doing this.
That's a heck of an idea!



:o I did that by accident on my chainsaw trying to unclog the fuel line with out taking it off. LOL

About an 1/8 gallon of gas coming out of the filler hole, at about 130psi, in less than .2 seconds.
Yea I got a face full and my right side took a bath. It was puddled in my boots. Thank god I was still wearing my goggles.
 
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