Phew... good!
Had me worried about the exploited version of the big brother conspiracy for a minute.

 

I'd just like to point out that I have yet to say that he shouldn't own any firearms. In fact the Po leece ought to hand deliver the man his gun(s) and apologize for being jackazzes.

 

Please educate me - I'm not aware of the incident you are reffering to...

...unless you are reffering to the video that went around the internet of the big black cop (ATF agent?) that was the only one in the room professional enough to handle his firearm, and ended up negligently discharging his Glock and shooting himself in the leg in front of a room full of kids.

 

When they were giving away brains, it is plain to see that you were no where to be found. Your reading comprehension may reach the level of a moron in a few years, and that only if you keep trying to learn how to read.

All 4 guns were together when I gave them to my relatives. And this was many years ago. 10 years ago one of them surfaced. I told the police how it came to be out of my possesion, and they politely returned it to me. Now some years later another one has surfaced. And they are not returning it to me, not because of how I lost it, but because I had a pool room fight many, many years ago. So, take that in your no reading self, and go sit in a corner, and take each word, and try to understand it.

 

We still don't know how the police came to have pocession of the guns, at 10 year intervals.

Where did they find them, did they take them in the first place, were they used in some sort of crime, did they just turn up at the range on a bench?

Granted i can't imagine them wanting to give them back if there was some sort of illegal activity they were involved in.

I would still wonder if you had purchased any new or used firearms since 98, and why they don't come and liberate the rest of your collection since you are obviously prohibited from owning them. You may not want to point this last one out.

 

Well first of all, they are not giving me that information. It goes like this. If I win an arguement, what is the reason for me to keep on talking? You see my point.

They gave me a gun back some 10 odd years ago. They told me vaguely that it was recovered from some one at a gambling raid. Now, should I question the police on where they got them? Or should I ask them did they take them from my careless relatives? All that is pointless, because the police, know that it is my property, and they are not contesting that, or contesting how they got out of my possesion. So, why should I be questioning them on where they got them from? What benifit would that do me?

There is one sticky point with the police, and that is the pool room brawl on my record. The only people with a problem with me losing the guns are the people around here. The police have no problem with my explaination on how the guns were lost,none whatsoever. So, that supports my comments that a lot of the comments on this subject are personal and reak with a double standard.

Only about one or two posters mention that fact that the problem the police are having in giving me my gun back is the fight in the pool hall. Other than that, I am fully lawful. But, not around here. I am almost Public Enemy #1 and shouldn't ever own a gun again. And I should be tarred and feathered for losing them. Oh yeah..

Dam, I have type so much my fingers are sore!!

Your comments were well taken man, and I thank the very few that see this in the true light.

 

Thats what I need, a minority joke.

 

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Dam, I have type so much my fingers are sore!!

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That helps build grip strength. Something you need for those BE matches.

 

Ok maybe it’s because I’ve had a bad day or just the fact that you posted something accusing me of not having a conversational meriting conversation or the ability to critique. But you flat out just really pissed me off and this will be my ONE AND ONLY angry thread in which I have decided to point out an idiot. I am doing this because most individuals are so blindingly idiotic, but 36fan, you posses the ability to sound like you have half a brain and the other half is just rude. Thus you warrant a response.

Where I live or lived when this occurred is:
1. None of your business.
2. If you were smart enough to read my entire post you would astutely know as I mentioned that.
3. I’m as American as the next guy. I’m not asking to tag your ignorant hide so when we release astoundingly brilliant individuals such as yourself into public, we’re able to track them.
4. The child who died you appalling idiot was 2 freaking years old, and the one who shot the gun was 6. Your back woods redneck family may have taught you how to twirl your pistol at that age, however I doubt a reasonable individual would expect an average child of that age to have this knowledge. It is not lack of parenting at that age; if they were older then I’d say yes. However, 2 and 6 are not reasonable ages to expect such actions. But like I said, I don’t doubt you are different then the majority of individuals in this world. You have already displayed your intuition in this area.

Checked the laws applied:

Gun Manufacturer Accountability
Do cities have authority to hold gun makers legally liable? Yes
Child Access Prevention - CAP
Are gun owners held accountable for leaving guns accessible to kids? Yes


I posted information for Cehowardf150 to be helpful and informational. I was not accusing or rude. Rather I held a professional conversation with him and agreed on some of his points and introduced him to other points. (I will not give you this courtesy and you did not provide it to me) My appreciation to Cehowardf150 for doing the same for me!

Cehowardf150 said himself that hindsight is 20/20 and in effect he should not have lost the guns. He sounds like a gentleman who will learn from mistakes and be more cautious in the future. I was only providing information to help him.

Cehowardf150, I surely hope that nobody in this forum is holding a double standard but rather reacting to a very “hot button topic”, gun safety. When I see solid evidence of the later then I will be the first to call it out. However, as with any medium of communication you must expect people with incorrect views of other individuals as it unfortunately can happen and happen both ways. I’m sure as you know better than I do, the best thing to do is practice the appropriate way to conduct ourselves and not let others thoughts run our lives.


Thank you for your time and reading. Hopefully before 36fan decides to “impart his wisdom” on me or what I’ve said in this thread, he will read it in its entirety. Sit, let it soak in for a good 4 fours, and then if he can remember why he was reading his computer screen in the first place, give an educational response. In any event, I’m through with this thread and will move on to less frustrating people in other threads.

Duke

 

Originally Posted by mountaineer02v8
correct yourself!! It did not happen "one time" it happened 2 times already to you! Go back to your First post and re-read it!

And yes, humans do make mistakes, you just keep making them! You should ALWAYS know where your guns are at all times! Your not responsible which is why you keep loosing them! Thats a HUGE mistake and I do not blame the police for keeping them! ( what an idiot i repaired your spelling "again")

I am watching you little boy blew . You have to be the most uninformed, dumbest, worthless, idiot Ohio has ever produced. I read most of the posts here and yours were the most worthless, dumbest uninformed replies i have ever read for the last 5+ years i have been here. Why don't you go away for the rest of your life. Do us all a favor here please.

cehowardf150 i wish you luck getting your guns back but the effort may indeed be fruitless. The laws here are getting worse each day with all these F-in nut bags that have nothing to do in the boring little life's so they stick there noses into crap where they do no good for nobody. If they need something to do then maybe they should setup and educational tutoring center then folks like mountaineer02v8 could go there and learn to spell "are" correctly, now that would be something i would give to.

 

man! I hope you feel better now that thats off ur chest. I think next time though u should tell me how you really feel!

 

1) Didn't ask, don't care
2) Which post? Their have been 7 pages or so to this point, and they all run together after a while.
3) Good, I don't want my brilliant, but ignorant hide tagged.
4) A 6 year old is plenty old enough to know how to properly handle a firearm. My 2 year old knows 'Daddy's guns' and knows not to mess with them; however, they are kept unaccesible to her anyway (i.e. - this is known as responsible parenting).

I did not accuse you and your posts of not having merit; up to this point your threads were some of the few that did. My apologies for you thinking that I was personally attacking you. If you noticed their was a couple of extra lines between my response to your post and when I began talking about the thread in general. I said "...this thread is getting out of hand. The replies no longer are having any conversational merit and critque abilities. The replies have become personal attacks. I'm surpries a moderator hasn't already wandered in here and shut this thread down." Which I stand by, and your last post justs supports my accusation - and I doubt that you would argue most of the other posts weren't becoming personal attacks.

As for the city laws that apply, I fully believe firearm manufactures should be no more accountable for the use of their product than the auto manufactures for the use of theirs. So the next time anyone gets hurt in a vehicle accident, sue the auto manufacturer! The rest of the laws you mention are based on responsible ownership, common sense, and proper parenting.

 

It's not a joke (just tryin' to be descriptive) - I'll have to try and find the link to that video...

 

I've only read this thread in passing but this comment was way over the top. The back woods redneck bit was too much and frankly ticks me off a bit.

For that matter the comment itself doesnt make sense. If you own guns, which I do, and have children, which I do..introducing them to guns early and often is the best way to ensure safety. My children both 6 and 3 know what a gun looks like and they know not to touch them....ever without Daddy. Firing a gun and having them see it fired is a real eye opener. Hiding them away is a sure fire way to get them to play with them.

Are my guns secured? Yes.
Could my children easily get to them? No.

Should my children be at a friend's house and come across a gun will they know how to handle the situation? Better believe it.

I grew up with a cop for a father. I would get up and their were guns on the table. I knew not to touch them and not one had a trigger lock.

This back wood rednecks's children are better educated about guns than others who feel safe with the children uninformed and their guns locked up.

Vader


Not even gonna touch the "manufacturer's responsibility" bit as I dont feel like reading through to figure out who implied that nonsense.

 

Yea, right!....What part of Iraq are you from?
A 6 year old can't even spell the word Properly...
Too much gereralization going on for me...