Also some intresting reading here...

http://www.corral.net/forums/showthread.php?t=723846

 

This better be with a lightning or the BS flag is flyin high...

 

Also what issue with the engine did the 99/00's have?

 

My 2K only has 74K!
That is alot of miles... That one pretty much came off the assembely line and hasn't been shut off yet.




The BS flag can go up I guess.
It is just an XLT, it is also N/A, and bone stock "as far as I know".
It does whistel like it's got a turbo at WOT... but it does not have one, it is 100% N/A.

Anyone is more than welcome to come drive it.
I won't take it to a dealer for anything incase it's an overlooked fluke or a prototype that happened to not get removed before it got shipped.
The only down side and I would like to take it to a dealer and see if I could get something done about this. But under the hood is already ate up with sever rust and corrosion. Been that way since I bought it. But not until I find out why it runs the way it does. I'd rather take care of it myself if I need to. Going to have to replace the AC linse to condensor soon due to corrosion, also the Power sterring lines for teh same thing, as well as most of the electrical connections on the firewall. 90% of evey bolt onder the hod is so coroded, that I'd be scared to put a socket on them becasue they will crumble. Likely have to cut them off and replace.

I had intended on taking it to the local track "which is only an 1/8 mile track" this past summer and see what it is actually doing. I will get base lines before I do any mods to it. I've had it one year and three months and have yet to add any performance mods to it yet. It's driving me crazy, I want to but want a base line first. The closest Dyno is a little north of the track which is 45 miles away. Maybe I can have a spare minute when I am home to get it there after the first of the year. I hate to pay the extra money over actuall real world track stats. but.... thats the way it goes sometimes.

 

There is NO CHANCE IN HELL a stock 5.4 XLT out ran a Porsche. None.

At any rate I hate truck shopping and so far am not as impressed with these 5.4s as much as I like my old 302. Atleast not yet.

John

 

Off the line, it is conceivable that a F-150 5.4L can take a 930, however, it will not take long before a properly running 930 will hand the F-150 its hat. Older Porsches, especially the turbos, are not known for their off-the-line responses, its when you get into the throttle and into the higher gears that they really sing. Most Porsches are designed and built to be fast in a track environment, not at a dragstrip.

 

He actually took me out of the hole, I was behind him at the stop light so I think he shut it down as soon as he hit the speed limit of 45 mph not knowing that I was back there racing. From the light that we were at we had about 4 more miles of 4 line straight, flat highway. I pulled up next to him at about 45 mph and we cruised there for a while until he acknowledged a race. I let him hit it first and soon as he did then I nailed it. There was no comparison. BUT.... I shut it down at 90mph. In a track situation where we could have ran it out right my speed limiter would have kicked in at about 105 mph. He can easily do 130 for a top end. So he can out run me easily. We did 4 rollingf launches during the 4 lane stretch and same result every time. Last two time we were rolling starts at 60mph.
Porsches are awesome machines and this in no way undermines thier design nor defies the laws of physics or ration.

They are 4 cyls, with big bore, a long stroke, high gears, light body, sit low to the ground and wide foot print. They are designed for loooong, curvy roads. I personally prefer the 944 for it's handeling, and affordability. But that's personal opinion. Any model would take my or most trucks on a curvy road with ease. It would corner with speeds 30-50 mph faster than me on any given corner. So even if it had a bad driver in it. I would not have enough horsepower to power out of the corners and catch up.

I belong to KCWS, a local Porsche club and Rennlist, a national Porsche, BMW, Audi enthusiast club. You will never here an owner of a Porsche talking about thier 1/4 mile times. I dont know what a 930 will do but.. A stock 1988 Porsche, 944, Turbo, S. does 0-60 in 5.5 sec, and 1/4 mile in 14.2 sec. That was the fastest 944 year, others are in the 15 and 16 second range.
The way they are set up they run through the gears 0-60 and stay in a decent power band. From 60-100 they are out of thier power band and sluggish. From 100-130 they are back in thier power band again. How often on the road can you get into that last power band?

My truck is pretty consistant until about 95 mph. I do have to lift the throttle at about 5200 rpm to make it shift at each gear to keep it consistant. Other wise my time is slower. I start losing power at about 4800 rpm, but at 5200 RPM it's like I hit a wall and will barely climb to the next gear so I have to make it shift. In 3rd gear I hit that wall again at 95-100 mph. Then I have to back out of it and use O/D to climb til it shuts off. I think Troyer can take care of all of that for me as soon as I can get some base lines. It is a PIA trying to hit that spot where you back out of it enough to make it shift but no further than that, and then know when you can floor it again with out it down shifting. So I hope he can unleash some hidden power in the top end so I can just keep it floored and let it do it's thing.

 

Just curious, any idea why so much corrosion?

 

It orginaly came from Ohio and they do use a lot of salt on the roads during the winters there. So I don't know if the previous owner never cleaned under the hood or what. There is non on the undercarriag, some surface cancer at the very bottum of the drivers door, but no where else besides under the hood.
We use salt here too and my brother has a 97 that is native here, and it does not have any more than would be expected. I know he hasn't cleaned under his hood in the 4 years that he's owned it. So I'm really at a loss for an explanation.
For the first several months that I owned it, I looked under the hood of anything older than 2002 that I could, to see if it was common or not. It appears that I am all alone with this one.

 

Anyway... back on topic?

 

Ive never read so buch BS in my life, I stock XLT 5.4 beat a turbo porshe?! I mean are you sure this guy/gal even new you were trying to race?? He might have just been accelerating normally. The 5.4 XLT Scab/Screw is a high 16/low 17 second truck stock, and I know for a fact that the porshe would destroy it, especially on the top end.

Also, are we talking about an 04/05 3V or earlier 2V 5.4? Only time will tell about the 3V 5.4, but from what is seen so far, spark plug issues seem to be a potential problem.

Earlier 5.4 2V, I cant speak about, but havent heard any real reliability issues.

 

I've been known to make up a story or two in my life, but if I make one up you would belive it. I wouldnt make something like this up.

Yes he knew, yes he was trying, trying really hard by the fourth time. It looked like his rally car, though he could have been a rich ricer that thought vinyl added power. And yes as covered previously, he should top out 25 mph faster than me hence one of the reasons I shut down at 90, besides the fact that it was a 60 mph speed limit. (Dang it he got me after 100 mph) "ohh snaaap" I might as well torch the truck for that. LOL
Anyone can drive the truck in question thier self call me if your in the area.
No it is NOT for sale but for $25K (cash only) I "might" would consider selling it.

 

I had my truck for just over a year before i did any mods to it. Never did a base line dyno, now wishing i had.

I would consider a base line dyno as you bought your truck used and it sounds that it may have been chipped or reporgramed. Someting to look for before modding. My .02

Russell

 

That's what I'm thinking too, but for now, as far as I know it's stock.
I'm definatly going to geta baseline beofre I do anything to it.
If it has been chipped or programmed then it is a poor chip. With my boat behind me (about 3500lbs) going up a hill, I can floor it and it will speed up to 5K rpm's but will not have enough power to climb high enough rpm's to shift. (unless it breaks traction) It'll hit 5K and stay there. However I can back out of it and let it shift then ease back into it and it'll speed up the hill with little effort and quickly. Often pulling away from traffic behind me.

More than chipped or programmed, I am wondering if somebody didn't change the transmission or do something to it. Again it woud be a poor mod, because I hate the way it shifts, lots of time could be made up by firming that up. Plus would be easire on the transmission when towing too. But WOT it's hitting about 48 mph before it shifts to second.
But then it seems like it takes as long to shift as it did to get that fast. By the time it shifts, it has lost about 1 mph. That's using the digital speedo built in to the odometer. It's suppose to have an LD trans. I dont know enough about Ford's "as this is my first one since I was 16" to beable to look and see if it is atleast the LD case. But I have changed the filter and it used the filter that it called for so I can only assume that it is still an LD.

First objective is to get a baseline, then find out what, how, and why. Mean while I'm just enjoying it every chance I get.