What shotgun should i get?
What shotgun should i get?
Well since i do alot of pheasant hunting and deer hunting im looking at getting a new shotgun. Im looking at a Remington 11-87 and just wondering if its a good gun. The other i was looking at is a Beretta or a Benelli. Whats your thoughts?
I don't own the first two, but I do own a Benelli. Mine isn't exactly a deer gun though, I bought it mainly as a fun blaster/house gun. I've got an M1 Super 90 Tactical with the 18.5" barrel and 7 shot magazine. So far, it's been reliable and patterns well for a shotgun. I'm not much of a shotgun hunter, but I don't know if one shotgun would suit you well for pheasants and deer. Best bet would probably be to buy a pump gun like a Remington 870 and a couple different barrels with screw in chokes for whatever you plan on doing and just swap barrels out accordingly. Check out www.thehighroad.org, lots of good info in the Shotguns forum from folks who are much better versed at the art of the scattergun than I am.
well my goose hunting partners have benellis and i have a browning gold and they are both great shotguns- have never use an 11-87. If money isnt an object i would check out the 2 i mentioned or a winchester superx2- basically same as the browning.
But a good 870 pump will be alot cheaper and will never fail u- u can get one with 2 barrels to suite all your needs for half the price of a basic browning gold. The only reason i have one is cuz i won the darn thing- damn nice gun tho
Dan.
But a good 870 pump will be alot cheaper and will never fail u- u can get one with 2 barrels to suite all your needs for half the price of a basic browning gold. The only reason i have one is cuz i won the darn thing- damn nice gun tho
Dan.
What would you guys recommend to use for trap? I've been going out to the range more and more in the past few months... and I'm getting more and more addicted to watching those damn orange things explode in the air.
Would like to be able to use it for small game too...
Would like to be able to use it for small game too...
Well i will be getting a rifled barrel more than likely to deer hunt. Money is always an object but i want a good gun that will last me forever. I also gotta have the auto. Its a must. The remington 11-87 is suppoce to be a good gun. Its able to shoot up to 3'' shells.
The 11-87 is the best bang for the buck, very good gun, get it!!! For trap a 11-87 with a trap barrel is best. If you have many dollars get the benelli but you will pay big for it. The old relieable is the trusted rem 870 wingmaster you can jack up a truck with it and then go hunting.
Originally Posted by catch22
What would you guys recommend to use for trap? I've been going out to the range more and more in the past few months... and I'm getting more and more addicted to watching those damn orange things explode in the air.
Would like to be able to use it for small game too...
Would like to be able to use it for small game too...
She does not/will not go in the woods, that's why I have the Mossberg 500a, 12 ga, pump. Which I did use for skeet and hunting before I got this one and worked as well on skeet as it did shooting quail.
Here she is.....

Tada!
The pic dose not do her justice. She sports a finely engraved reciever with a decortive narrowed butt and forstock. When you touch the walnut you realize the superior craftsmanship that went into this Italian beauty. Every inch is smoother than a babies bottom, every curve was carefully sanded to a nice even roundness. It feels like your holding a firm pair of hootie cans every time you pick her up.
The machine work is outstanding, I've been working on guns pretty much since I could walk. I won't even touch this one because my workmanship is not comparable. You can not slide a human hair between any of the parts, except a few moving parts. So every peice on it is less than 100 microns apart. The wood blends smoothly with the metal, other than slight texture and temperature difference, if you were to close your eyes and run your finger over it you can not tell where the wood stops and the metal starts. Although I don't know why you would close your eyes. Almost everytime I look at it there is a new detail that I hadn't noticed before and I've owned it for 8 years.
It is very rare and values at upwards of $6000. Each one is hand made by A.V. Marocciui.
NOT to be confused with Marocchi which is another high end Italian Over and Under shotgun maker. I have not ever seen nor shot a Marocchi but I hear they are just as well made. If you are wanting a great sport shooting gun and get a chance to buy either one. I definatly recomend you buy it if you can afford it at all. I can personally vouch for the A.V. Marocciui.
Edited to add:
I almost forgot to mention the balance. I can balance it on my finger directly under the barrel hinge. That means when shooting, that the hand on the forstock is almost underneath the pivot point. When shooting this allows for extremely quick target aqusition and percise barrel control with little effort.
Last edited by PSS-Mag; Nov 2, 2005 at 02:37 AM.
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
Here is a snap shot of my baby, she is a skeet only though.
She does not/will not go in the woods, that's why I have the Mossberg 500a, 12 ga, pump. Which I did use for skeet and hunting before I got this one and worked as well on skeet as it did shooting quail.
Here she is.....

Tada!
The pic dose not do her justice. She sports a finely engraved reciever with a decortive narrowed butt and forstock. When you touch the walnut you realize the superior craftsmanship that went into this Italian beauty. Every inch is smoother than a babies bottom, every curve was carefully sanded to a nice even roundness. It feels like your holding a firm pair of hootie cans every time you pick her up.
The machine work is outstanding, I've been working on guns pretty much since I could walk. I won't even touch this one because my workmanship is not comparable. You can not slide a human hair between any of the parts, except a few moving parts. So every peice on it is less than 100 microns apart. The wood blends smoothly with the metal, other than slight texture and temperature difference, if you were to close your eyes and run your finger over it you can not tell where the wood stops and the metal starts. Although I don't know why you would close your eyes. Almost everytime I look at it there is a new detail that I hadn't noticed before and I've owned it for 8 years.
It is very rare and values at upwards of $6000. Each one is hand made by A.V. Marocciui.
NOT to be confused with Marocchi which is another high end Italian Over and Under shotgun maker. I have not ever seen nor shot a Marocchi but I hear they are just as well made. If you are wanting a great sport shooting gun and get a chance to buy either one. I definatly recomend you buy it if you can afford it at all. I can personally vouch for the A.V. Marocciui.
Edited to add:
I almost forgot to mention the balance. I can balance it on my finger directly under the barrel hinge. That means when shooting, that the hand on the forstock is almost underneath the pivot point. When shooting this allows for extremely quick target aqusition and percise barrel control with little effort.
She does not/will not go in the woods, that's why I have the Mossberg 500a, 12 ga, pump. Which I did use for skeet and hunting before I got this one and worked as well on skeet as it did shooting quail.
Here she is.....

Tada!
The pic dose not do her justice. She sports a finely engraved reciever with a decortive narrowed butt and forstock. When you touch the walnut you realize the superior craftsmanship that went into this Italian beauty. Every inch is smoother than a babies bottom, every curve was carefully sanded to a nice even roundness. It feels like your holding a firm pair of hootie cans every time you pick her up.
The machine work is outstanding, I've been working on guns pretty much since I could walk. I won't even touch this one because my workmanship is not comparable. You can not slide a human hair between any of the parts, except a few moving parts. So every peice on it is less than 100 microns apart. The wood blends smoothly with the metal, other than slight texture and temperature difference, if you were to close your eyes and run your finger over it you can not tell where the wood stops and the metal starts. Although I don't know why you would close your eyes. Almost everytime I look at it there is a new detail that I hadn't noticed before and I've owned it for 8 years.
It is very rare and values at upwards of $6000. Each one is hand made by A.V. Marocciui.
NOT to be confused with Marocchi which is another high end Italian Over and Under shotgun maker. I have not ever seen nor shot a Marocchi but I hear they are just as well made. If you are wanting a great sport shooting gun and get a chance to buy either one. I definatly recomend you buy it if you can afford it at all. I can personally vouch for the A.V. Marocciui.
Edited to add:
I almost forgot to mention the balance. I can balance it on my finger directly under the barrel hinge. That means when shooting, that the hand on the forstock is almost underneath the pivot point. When shooting this allows for extremely quick target aqusition and percise barrel control with little effort.
Dude your dooling
I have a Smith & Wesson P-1000, and I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.
I'd do the 870 too just because the price is right, the quality is good, and the parts are cheap and will be supported for a very long time to come.
I'd do the 870 too just because the price is right, the quality is good, and the parts are cheap and will be supported for a very long time to come.
Originally Posted by 1969Mach
I have a Smith & Wesson P-1000, and I
Then I read the rest.
Originally Posted by 1969Mach
wouldn't recommend it to anyone
Originally Posted by 1969Mach
the parts are cheap and will be supported for a very long time to come.
LOLYea that is a down side to the Italian over and under. Have to have them custom made if/when you needed something. Or send it to the company and have them custom make a new piece for it. had ot have a firing pin made 3 years ago.
Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
I was thinking, "hmm never heard of it, may have to check it out!
I don't think that there were very many made. In fact, I'm not completely sure I have the model number correct, but it's a p1000, or p100. They also made a higher end shotgun at the same time, but can't remember it's model number.
The gun was actually made in Japan. It's not a bad gun, but I don't care much for it. I'm hanging on to it to see if it ever becomes a collector. I'll try a snap a pic when I get home later this morning.
I just purchased a Stoeger Condor O/U 12 ga for 270.00 out the door it's not a high end gun just a feild grade model. It fires just fine. I also own a Mossberg 500a pump and have fired it over 200 times with zero problems. If you are intersted in an O/U and want to spend less than $500.00 on an O/U than you could take a look at a Spartan. It's a little nicer to look at than the Stoeger but, still a feild grade shotgun and something you wouldn't be afraid to carry out into the woods. This is why I can never justify spending a $1000.00 or more on the Bennelli's for the Browning.
As far as the 1187 goes it's a good gun.
As far as the 1187 goes it's a good gun.
Here is a pic of my gun.....
....it is a cheapo from Coast-to-Coast Hardware....thing is older than I am....I believe it is from Savage Arms....it is a 12-ga. pump......Use it for birds and deer (in IL)....
....it is a cheapo from Coast-to-Coast Hardware....thing is older than I am....I believe it is from Savage Arms....it is a 12-ga. pump......Use it for birds and deer (in IL)....




