I'm developing a paper and since Craz3d did it I'd figure why not... a sample.

If you believe that we need EVMs why?

Thx

 

We need internet voting or telephone voting, so I don't have to stand in line 3 hours, in the hot Florida sun.

 

I don't believe we need them. The convenience and accuracy are nice but it's not an absolute necessity. Besides it puts the vote counters out of work

 

You mean the old ladies with nothing better to do anyway? LOL. Seriously, I think they need to figure out a way to get phone voting or internet voting working and secure enough, yada yada because like others have said, many people don't vote simply because it is a pain in the ***. Gotta drive some place you don't know, take time off work, stand in line for an hour or two, deal with a machine that is so old and broken down your vote probably won't be recorded anyway, then repeat the process the following year. I love it, now here in my city they automatically mail everyone absentee ballots. I'm 100% in favor of those. You can actually sit down, research each issue and decide from the comfort of your home. Total cost is 37 cents for a stamp.

 

...uh.................so Florida can participate in our national elections?

 

vader716, elections are run by the states and localities.
Maybe you better scale it back a bit, perhaps 'Why do we need EVMs in Maryland?'.
Take a look at the budgets of some of the poorer, rural counties in your state and the number of registered voters there, to determine if getting 'electronic' results would be justified by the capital outlays.

'Must Haves' are Must Haves.
'Wants' rarely make it through the budget process.
'Needs' are a grey area somewhere in between.

I know the Federal Government wants to fund improvements to the nations' voting system but, with the purse comes purse strings.

The Federal Government is nothing but a collection of representatives provided by elections from each state. Even the Presidency is the result of 50 state elections. I believe it should stay that way. Wouldn't want it to become something it's not supposed to be and he who provides the money gets to make the rules.

'All electric' won't fly with me. Elections are too important. All I have to do is kick the cord beside this desk and all that I have typed is lost. I buy something on the internet and my credit card number is at risk. If my credit card can't be absolutely protected, what chance does my vote have?

We have a large population here and always a good turnout. I believe we have the best of both worlds. The voter marks a card and inserts the card into a machine where it is electronically tallied.
However, if Raoul walks by and kicks the cord out of the wall or shorts out a circuit, the cards are still inside as backup and the election cannot be 'lost'.

 

Um..........it's been several years since your credit card number is at risk. There are several ways to absolutely 100% protect your credit card, online. This is 2005.

 

They sent me a new card this year because mine was compromised.
Somebody in NJ purchased a butt load of CDs at a music store, spent $1700 at a camera shop and bought a Big Mac.

I don't trust politicians now.
I certainly wouldn't trust him to tell me your vote and my vote have been received and by the way he won.

Anyway whatever my State does I'll have to put up with.
The lean I got from the thread was 'Big brother' taking care of this 'problem' for everyone.

Once you buy into it, it's only a matter of time before it's contracted out for efficiency and Haliburton is running the election from both ends.

 

There was a hint of Big Brother. I'm concerned about the electronic voting machines but was curious about getting opinions to spawn new paths of thought.


And there is no such thing as a 100% secure web transaction. To believe there is folly. Are they secure? Yes but 100% secure...no way.

 

Or better yet, lets let Microsoft deal with it, maybe it will get out sourced to India.

 

The Diebold machines use MS Access to store the votes...


Scared yet? You should be.....maybe I should put this in the scared of thread.

 

Ever hear of "Virtual Credit Cards"?

No folly here.

Virtual Cards - Realising the internet dream!

 

No, there is absolutely no need or reason to have electronic voting machines. It should be completely manual.

If some people don’t like to exercise their right to vote then they should not count. In other words those that actually do exercise their right to vote should have the ability to tell those who don’t “how it’s going to be”.

You have leaders, followers, and those that get in the way. Voters are leaders while all the rest are followers and people that get in the way. So if I am the only one in my neighborhood willing to go vote then it should be my right to tell the rest of the neighborhood “how it is going to be” and trust me it will be as close to 100% my way as I can get it…

As Raoul stated AND is fact nothing on the internet is 100% completely secure especially credit cards. Sure those that hand out credit cards and the merchants on the internet want you to believe that, the fact remains credit cards are NOT nor will they ever be 100% secure on the internet.

Therefore voting on the internet will never be 100% secure. You're vote might count once, it may not count at all, or it may count for 25,000, it all depends on who has the best hackers.

Anyhow I like the way it is right now where about half of America gets to decide what the other lazy half will actually get and tell them what they will do, what they will pay for and how they will live in “our” society, the society of voters…

That above paragraph is kind of scary huh? Good, it should be because that is how it “really” is when people decide to stay home and not vote. While they may think their vote doesn’t count guess what? My vote counts for more then one because not only do I get to decide for myself how things will be but I also get to decide for them how it will be.

I don’t want no electronics because I want to continue to tell my neighbors how it is going to be and they get no input at all. In my book if you don’t exercise your right to vote you automatically give up your right to bitch. Sure they can yap on all they want but I am standing there saying ”Talk to the hand cause the face ain’t listening, by the way I have to go vote so you can have something more to bitch about…”