Want more refining capacity?
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Want more refining capacity?
SO this mess won't happen again. No refineries have been built since 1976! Thanks to the hard-core tree huggers and their lawyers and of course legislation pushed by them and most congressmen and senators with a D after their name.
Write your senators and congressmen and tell them to BUILD MORE REFINERIES! And NOT near hurricane prone coasts. Perhaps inland NY and OR would be good choices.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
Write your senators and congressmen and tell them to BUILD MORE REFINERIES! And NOT near hurricane prone coasts. Perhaps inland NY and OR would be good choices.
http://www.senate.gov/general/contac...nators_cfm.cfm
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
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Originally Posted by lariatf150
Thanks to the hard-core tree huggers and their lawyers and of course legislation pushed by them and most congressmen and senators with a D after their name.
So maybe split the blame 99% tree huggers/1% home owners.
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I gurantee you that homeowners have not caused nearly the amout of griping as the greenies have, so I'll accept the 99:1 ratio. It's the 70's all over again and M#%#&*$*# F@#$*(@$* they're going to kill the damn horsepower war again. 
EFFIN econo boxes of the 70, grumble, damnit, mumble
EFFIN econo boxes of the 70, grumble, damnit, mumble
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I remember commenting on this subject a long while ago. I remember my comments as something in the form:
Unfortunately many people don’t really care about building more refineries and many don’t believe there are any issues with what we have. You have some that are blind to the fact that our current refineries are operating at 95 – 98% of capacity which is not good.
It will take some major gas price hikes to force people back into reality, to force them to see what some organizations, many claiming to care about the environment, are really all about which is nothing to do with the best interest of their fellow citizens.
Well, it looks like that time has come and many of us will pay dearly for a while. That is what needs to be done and we brought this on ourselves.
Sure, its easy to blame big oil, President Bush, the war in Iraq, or any other scapegoat that’s easy to see and focus our inability to accept personal responsibility but the fact remains we, American citizens, rightly deserve 90% of the blame…
These spikes we are seeing have NOTHING to do with any of the above and especially the war in Iraq. These spikes have to do with spoiled Americans, uneducated Americans, and weak minded Americans for thinking it is the government’s job to care for us, and believing idiots like environmental wackos for not allowing ANY energy development or advancement. No oil drilling expansion, no dams, no coal expansion, no nuclear expansion, nothing allowed built or expanding for different resources of energy. About the only thing they have allowed, and ONLY if not in their neighborhoods, are stupid windmills that look like crap on beautiful landscape. I would much rather see a few oil rigs on the side of a beautiful hill side then hundreds of oversized farm looking windmills.
These are NOT bad times or worse then others in the past. This is basically a repeat of the 70’s so though the pain may hurt it is not like something never seen or felt before. There will be no depression, perhaps a small recession, but no depression. There was none in the 70’s, there was none in the 80’s which was the last time for major price spikes and we are just about at those prices now that we were paying in the early 80’s (adjusted for inflation).
This is basically ”Been there, done that…”
Actually, though I hate to pay higher prices, I am glad to see gasoline spiking and if there are people still on the fence I hope it goes to $10 a gallon or more so they finally get through their thick brainless skull that chit don’t just happen on its own and electric cars and windmills will NEVER provide energy for America’s needs…
Unfortunately many people don’t really care about building more refineries and many don’t believe there are any issues with what we have. You have some that are blind to the fact that our current refineries are operating at 95 – 98% of capacity which is not good.
It will take some major gas price hikes to force people back into reality, to force them to see what some organizations, many claiming to care about the environment, are really all about which is nothing to do with the best interest of their fellow citizens.
Well, it looks like that time has come and many of us will pay dearly for a while. That is what needs to be done and we brought this on ourselves.
Sure, its easy to blame big oil, President Bush, the war in Iraq, or any other scapegoat that’s easy to see and focus our inability to accept personal responsibility but the fact remains we, American citizens, rightly deserve 90% of the blame…
These spikes we are seeing have NOTHING to do with any of the above and especially the war in Iraq. These spikes have to do with spoiled Americans, uneducated Americans, and weak minded Americans for thinking it is the government’s job to care for us, and believing idiots like environmental wackos for not allowing ANY energy development or advancement. No oil drilling expansion, no dams, no coal expansion, no nuclear expansion, nothing allowed built or expanding for different resources of energy. About the only thing they have allowed, and ONLY if not in their neighborhoods, are stupid windmills that look like crap on beautiful landscape. I would much rather see a few oil rigs on the side of a beautiful hill side then hundreds of oversized farm looking windmills.
These are NOT bad times or worse then others in the past. This is basically a repeat of the 70’s so though the pain may hurt it is not like something never seen or felt before. There will be no depression, perhaps a small recession, but no depression. There was none in the 70’s, there was none in the 80’s which was the last time for major price spikes and we are just about at those prices now that we were paying in the early 80’s (adjusted for inflation).
This is basically ”Been there, done that…”
Actually, though I hate to pay higher prices, I am glad to see gasoline spiking and if there are people still on the fence I hope it goes to $10 a gallon or more so they finally get through their thick brainless skull that chit don’t just happen on its own and electric cars and windmills will NEVER provide energy for America’s needs…
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
I remember commenting on this subject a long while ago. I remember my comments as something in the form:
Unfortunately many people don’t really care about building more refineries and many don’t believe there are any issues with what we have. You have some that are blind to the fact that our current refineries are operating at 95 – 98% of capacity which is not good.
It will take some major gas price hikes to force people back into reality, to force them to see what some organizations, many claiming to care about the environment, are really all about which is nothing to do with the best interest of their fellow citizens.
Well, it looks like that time has come and many of us will pay dearly for a while. That is what needs to be done and we brought this on ourselves.
Sure, its easy to blame big oil, President Bush, the war in Iraq, or any other scapegoat that’s easy to see and focus our inability to accept personal responsibility but the fact remains we, American citizens, rightly deserve 90% of the blame…
These spikes we are seeing have NOTHING to do with any of the above and especially the war in Iraq. These spikes have to do with spoiled Americans, uneducated Americans, and weak minded Americans for thinking it is the government’s job to care for us, and believing idiots like environmental wackos for not allowing ANY energy development or advancement. No oil drilling expansion, no dams, no coal expansion, no nuclear expansion, nothing allowed built or expanding for different resources of energy. About the only thing they have allowed, and ONLY if not in their neighborhoods, are stupid windmills that look like crap on beautiful landscape. I would much rather see a few oil rigs on the side of a beautiful hill side then hundreds of oversized farm looking windmills.
These are NOT bad times or worse then others in the past. This is basically a repeat of the 70’s so though the pain may hurt it is not like something never seen or felt before. There will be no depression, perhaps a small recession, but no depression. There was none in the 70’s, there was none in the 80’s which was the last time for major price spikes and we are just about at those prices now that we were paying in the early 80’s (adjusted for inflation).
This is basically ”Been there, done that…”
Actually, though I hate to pay higher prices, I am glad to see gasoline spiking and if there are people still on the fence I hope it goes to $10 a gallon or more so they finally get through their thick brainless skull that chit don’t just happen on its own and electric cars and windmills will NEVER provide energy for America’s needs…
Unfortunately many people don’t really care about building more refineries and many don’t believe there are any issues with what we have. You have some that are blind to the fact that our current refineries are operating at 95 – 98% of capacity which is not good.
It will take some major gas price hikes to force people back into reality, to force them to see what some organizations, many claiming to care about the environment, are really all about which is nothing to do with the best interest of their fellow citizens.
Well, it looks like that time has come and many of us will pay dearly for a while. That is what needs to be done and we brought this on ourselves.
Sure, its easy to blame big oil, President Bush, the war in Iraq, or any other scapegoat that’s easy to see and focus our inability to accept personal responsibility but the fact remains we, American citizens, rightly deserve 90% of the blame…
These spikes we are seeing have NOTHING to do with any of the above and especially the war in Iraq. These spikes have to do with spoiled Americans, uneducated Americans, and weak minded Americans for thinking it is the government’s job to care for us, and believing idiots like environmental wackos for not allowing ANY energy development or advancement. No oil drilling expansion, no dams, no coal expansion, no nuclear expansion, nothing allowed built or expanding for different resources of energy. About the only thing they have allowed, and ONLY if not in their neighborhoods, are stupid windmills that look like crap on beautiful landscape. I would much rather see a few oil rigs on the side of a beautiful hill side then hundreds of oversized farm looking windmills.
These are NOT bad times or worse then others in the past. This is basically a repeat of the 70’s so though the pain may hurt it is not like something never seen or felt before. There will be no depression, perhaps a small recession, but no depression. There was none in the 70’s, there was none in the 80’s which was the last time for major price spikes and we are just about at those prices now that we were paying in the early 80’s (adjusted for inflation).
This is basically ”Been there, done that…”
Actually, though I hate to pay higher prices, I am glad to see gasoline spiking and if there are people still on the fence I hope it goes to $10 a gallon or more so they finally get through their thick brainless skull that chit don’t just happen on its own and electric cars and windmills will NEVER provide energy for America’s needs…
Don't forget that alot of the discouraged infrastructure development/improvement comes from the N.I.M.B.Y.'s
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Originally Posted by 01 XLT Sport
Well, it looks like that time has come and many of us will pay dearly for a while. That is what needs to be done and we brought this on ourselves.
Whats even more sad is that we need out of control rising prices just get some people to see what needs to be done.