July 2005 truck sales

Just further proof that fugly DOES not sell. Got bad news for the Japanese looks like Ford and GM still are top daddy dog. Americans know about trucks.... period. Even the Dudge (German owned) is down. Looks like Ford sold twice as many trucks in July as Nissan has all year. (Take that Titan trolls)

vroten

 

Those are incredible increases for the Chev/GM trucks. Together the twins way outsold the fitty's.

 

You got to remember why though, because GM was giving them away this summer. I almost traded my 150 in on a Sierra because they were willing to give me a more opted out truck (2500 crew cab 4x4 shortbed) for basically my 150 and a few grand. It was nuts.


And the titans are fugly as hell. I want to puke when I see them. Plus they are overpriced. A firend paid more for a less opted titan then I did for my 150.

 

That's due to them giving away the trucks with that employee purchase program... sales went through the roof, and with the big markups on trucks they flew off the lot. Next years figures are gonna be hilarious when they drop 30% YTD...

 

Ford is also offering the family discount plan, sounds like the discounts aren't as much as the chev's.

 

Ford is also 4-6 weeks too late on the family discount plan...

 

This is good news?

Nissan and Toyota sales are up even though Ford and GM are giving trucks away.

Margins this thin don't work well in the long term; just ask the airline industry. The real question is how much money does Nissan and Toyota profit from a truck compared to GM or Ford.

-Fatz
2004 FX4 SCrew

p.s. The Nissan Titan is built in Mississippi.

 

The Fords and Chevys were overpriced to begin with. Now that they drop the price they fly off the lots, shows you something.
I hate when people like to say the Titan is an American truck, thats just stupid to me it may be built here but when all is said and done the profits go back to Nissan, in Japan aka Not American. :santa:
Why do GM still offer the GMC and Chevy silverado?? is there a big difference????

 

Yikes. Looks like Titan won't break 100,000 for the year. Wonder why?

 

I don't know about ya'll but every time me and my dad see a Titan we say it gets uglier every time we see it

 

Good news, no, rather it is EXCELLENT news…

You’re missing the big picture, the true picture, the actual economical facts. Let’s see if this makes any sense…

Margins, in a sense, don’t make a lot of difference but rather “volume”. You have to move product to make money, not price in big profits.

Let’s take the numbers posted on that site for Ford, Nissan, and Toyota:

Ford:
July 05 sold – 126,905
July 04 sold – 80,253

Nissan:
July 05 sold – 9,114
July 04 sold – 8,726

Toyota:
July 05 sold – 11,149 *(sold less this year then last year, very sad)
July 04 sold – 12,098


Let’s say Ford added $100 to the price for profit. That would give Ford $12,690,500 in profit.

Nissan would have to add $1392 for each vehicle to equal Ford in profits.

Toyota would have to add $1138 for each vehicle to equal Ford in profits.

Let’s make this interesting and say each vehicle is equally priced at a base price of $25,000 “before” the profit figure was added.

Ford would increase the price by 0.4%, while Nissan would have to increase theirs by 5.6% and Toyota by 4.5%.

Another hilarious example of the “foreign” brands compared to Ford is to look at it as those are the only three models of trucks sold. Therefore, for July 05 there would have been a total of 147,168 trucks sold.

Ford’s share = 86%
Nissan’s share = 6%
Toyota’s share = 8%

What’s even more sad is those very low numbers for the “foreign” trucks get even lower when you throw in Chevy and GMC…

 

You don't know what you're talking about.

The profits don't go back to Japan. You'll have to do the research to understand why.

-Fatz

 

I see where your going but what about other costs??? Are all posible costs rolled into the 25k dollar price or what???
Your saying that every Ford truck makes X amount of money per vehicle. and they move Y amount of them. So X multiplied by Y give you your profit.
Now nissan makes more per vehicle but sells less so 2X multiplied by 1/2Y give your there profits. Now lets put made up values in there just for grins.
X=50 and Y=500
Ford= X times Y
50 times 500=25000
Nissan= 2X times 1/2Y
2(50) times 1/2(500)
100 times 250= 25000
Its just a different way to get from A to B.
Ford is making money. Most people dont understand that thow they think that Ford is losing money on each vehicle so that profits drop huge becuase with every vehicle you sell your losses get bigger.
I hate MATH!!!!! :santa:

 

Hey Fatz,
Nissan and Toyota report their earnings in YEN, not DOLLARS.
Sure, they invest in this country, building plants in the middle
of nowhere and hiring cheap labor. Good plan.
Japanese companies, yes, they ARE Japanese dude, are in
the business of putting competition OUT of business.
Remeber when tv's were made by American companies?

The Jap trucks are decent, and believe me, they are going
for the throat.

Just because a foreign company builds a manufacturing plant(s)
on American soil, does NOT make them an American company.

 

Very good post 01 XLT. Your thinking is exactly right. Here at my dealership the same thing applies.....best definition is called "economies of scale". Volume DOES cure all evils.