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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Well I'm a member of the Pentecostal faith. However, that said I haven't regularly attended church in over a year and a half. They are good people but sometimes I have to ask "Why?" or "How does this make sense?". I need to at least question things and then if a reasonable explanation can't be obtained I have no problem believing on faith alone.

I just didn't get much out of it anymore because I always looked a little too deep. That doesn't mean I stopped believing the teachings but I need to have it make some sense.

Me anyhow.

Jim
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:33 AM
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Originally Posted by PSS-Mag
I belive you proved your own theory. Except the scope of the theory was much proader than you had antisapated (sp?). It involves human nature which every single person has. Including you and I.
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by J-150
I believe the majority of us can continue to have mature conversations on the topic. This was the case in every religious thread of the past week. People on both sides of the fence (and a few in the middle too) kept it civilized and respectful.
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I agree with that 100%, but it just seems like the odds are against that
lately....
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:56 AM
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Originally Posted by jztbcz
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I agree with that 100%, but it just seems like the odds are against that
lately....

the majority have kept it civil. There was one stubborn individual and a few comedians, but the rest of us kept mature. The fact that the one thread hit 14 pages speaks volumes.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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I beleive Jesus is the Son of God

I beleive he died on the cross at Calvary and bore
the weight of my sins

I beleive red is the prettiest color for a truck

I beleive once Jesus saves a person's soul that they are saved
for good.

I believe my truck runs much better with the 1714, airraid, and magnaflow

I beleive homosexuality, abortion etc. are against God's will.

I believe that "believe" is a funny looking word when typed over and over.

I believe adultry is a sin, and is tearing down the fabric of our family's

I believe I would like to have some e-fans for my truck.

I believe it is my responsibility to plant the seed of the Gospel in everyone
around my life.

I do not believe I am supposed to beat people over the head with the Bible or argue to convince them about it, that is the Holy Spirit's job.

I believe that Rick Warren and his "Purpose Driven Life" is responsible for splitting
many church's and he will have to answer for this.

I believe my Southern Baptist Convention is wrong on many things that are happening right now, such as women pastors and "Community Churches"

I believe my Ford truck is superior to Chevy, Dodge, Nissan, and Toyota. That Honda thing is not even worth mentioning.

I believe I love each and every one of you.

I believe the King James Version of the bible is the closest translation that I can read, and this is the only Bible I want to read.

And finally....I beleive God gives us each a free will to choose who we will serve.

"But as for me and my house we will serve the Lord"

I will try my hardest to not flame those who disagree with me and that is your right to do so. But I know whome I have believed and am pursuaded that he is able to keep that which I've committed unto him against that day.

In other words...I probably ain't gonna change my mind.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 10:04 AM
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OK, I'll try. Coming from a third-gen Irish family, I was raised Roman Catholic. My grandmother, however, was second-gen English and protestant, and yes, her father was furious when she got married. Growing up, my Dad brought my sister and myself to mass every weekend. I also attended summer bible classes and activities at my grandmother's protestant church. My dad's cousin, who we were close to, married a man that became an Episcopalian minister. During my youth, I became active in our parish' folk mass, adn then the CYO. Then I discovered fast cars and fast women. Being a part of the Catholic church, it was easy to become disillusioned. Sometime between finding the cars and girls, and becoming an adult, I sat back and assessed just what it was I believed in. I consiously accepted Christ as our saviour and son of God, but wasn't thrilled with my church. I could tell stories about bad experiences with the Catholic church, but I am sure everyone has at least a few. I did have my daughter baptized, and have taught about the bible and Jesus, but have not pushed her into any organized religion. I want her to decide that on her own. I do believe that there is a link between all major religions, so as long as she believes in the one God, whatever you choose to call him, she will be saved, though I will try to help her lean towards a Christian faith. I believe that God does love us all, and I can't believe that a loving, forgiving God would condemn anyone who truly believes they live righteously. Myself, I am leaning towards becoming either Episcopalian or Baptist. In this part of the country, both seem to be too involved in politics, and at opposite ends of the scale for that matter, and it's a turn off. That's it for now, if I write any more, I may need a copyright.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by vader716
Well I'm a member of the Pentecostal faith. However, that said I haven't regularly attended church in over a year and a half. They are good people but sometimes I have to ask "Why?" or "How does this make sense?". I need to at least question things and then if a reasonable explanation can't be obtained I have no problem believing on faith alone.

I just didn't get much out of it anymore because I always looked a little too deep. That doesn't mean I stopped believing the teachings but I need to have it make some sense.

Me anyhow.

Jim


if you aren't questioning, you aren't thinking...



regards
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by arrbilly


if you aren't questioning, you aren't thinking...



regards
This is true...

I have a friend, who is a preachers daughter "born and raised", that just went back to school a year or so ago. One of her required classes was religion... At first she thought the Professor was a non beliving heathen because he questioned everybody on all of thier beliefs. She hated the class with a passion because she felt like he was trying to get her and others to walk away from thier faiths.
I told her that he was just trying to get people to think about what they belived in and why they belive it. I said that he would argue with you no matter what stance you took Christian, Atheist or what ever.
Come to find out when the class was over, I was right and to her surprise he told the class that he was a Christian and told them that because they have now questioned thier faith and now know why they belive. Then when faced with it in the world they can understand why someone would question it and is better equipped to handle it with them with compassion and understanding. (aka they are stronger in thier faith now because of it.)
 

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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by J-150
the majority have kept it civil. There was one stubborn individual and a few comedians, but the rest of us kept mature. The fact that the one thread hit 14 pages speaks volumes.

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true it is ....
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:34 PM
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... I like to know if people had some sort of conversion sometime in their life, or if they have just always believed what they believe...
When I was young, I stuck fork in an outlet.
I believe in electricity.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 02:49 PM
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tru dat

Originally Posted by Raoul
When I was young, I stuck fork in an outlet.
I believe in electricity.
I did the same thing only with tweezers when I was 4.

Didn't speak for an hour.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:10 PM
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Just to give you an idea how deep the waters run in my family.....speaking of electricity.


My nephew as a baby picked up the business end of an ac adapter that was still plugged in (used to recharge a small vaccuum). You know the type like the ones that power your computer speakers or cell phone.

Any way...he gets shocked.

He cries.

My sister (his mother) pics up the plug and said "Why is he crying that couldn't have hurt". You guessed it...stuck it in her mouth.

As her older brother I felt it necessary to let her learn on her own. That and the anticipation was killing me.

What a goof....yep that's my blood.
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 04:13 PM
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I'm not sure if I should laugh.. or pray...?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Raoul
When I was young, I stuck fork in an outlet.
I believe in electricity.
I did the same thing with my dad's keys. Maybe that's why I work at a power plant now?
 
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Old Jun 9, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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I'm out of here for the weekend folks. Thanks for the posts so far. Truly interesting. Are there any Mormons or JWs in the house? Just curious.

Anyway, I'm heading out to my garage now, and prepping the boat for 3 days of fishing. The lake's only 20 miles away, but I'm going to be there from sun up to sun down as long as the weather holds.

See ya monday.
 
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