For those that are interested, here is the list of base closings/changes.

http://www.defenselink.mil/brac/pdf/...nalUpdated.pdf

Question for Zoo Crew. I see that Walter Reed is being "Realigned" with a loss of quite a view personnel, both military and civilian. Any idea on how this will effect you yet or just wild rumors?

Edit. Same question goes for anyone else in the military or who has a military related job.

 

I often said the governement should close more bases, BUT maintain the same troop strength level. This would allow for better training, less hardship on remianing troops during higher ops-tempo periods and generally improve morale of the active duty forces.

 

From the looks of it, there will be a total loss of about 11,000 military personnel and 18,000 civilian from all the closings and realignments. From what I saw on the news, they want to close Walter Reed in DC and move everything to Bethesda Naval Medical Center. They would also build a new Walter Reed there.

 

So is this list just an blueprint on what they want to close and how is all that deterimined. I ask because Red River Army Depot in Texas is realy close and it would hurt us bad, about 2500 civ loses. Thats alot of people for this area.

 

It is what they are preposing. It still has to go thru the president and congress. From what I have seen, this list is no where near as large as in 95.

 

my brother is a loadmaster on a c-5 galaxy in the air force reserves based here in mass at westover...closing otis down on the cape we both think is a bad move


he thinks...wait..its "classified"...as he put it "i could tell ya but then i'd have to kill ya"...but he just got back from 9 days here and there with the air force and now has to spend the weekend at the base for all this re-arranging of the bases closing and the reassigned personell to get comfortable with the new assignment before its home again and we can straighten out his bronco...we need to put our priorites in their places ...zap!

 

Whew... survived another BRAC ....DoD has chosen to realign our base

We are slotted to loose 672 Navy civilian employees, and 11 contractor billets...

Check out our base at http://www.crane.navy.mil/defaulthome.asp

 

Well so far naval station ingleside is on the list and supose to close. It will def. hurt this community and most of the surronding towns, but i guess theres not much we can do.

 

[QUOTE=zapster]my brother is a loadmaster on a c-5 galaxy in the air force reserves based here in mass at westover...closing otis down on the cape we both think is a bad move
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Closing Otis is DEFINATELY a bad move. My son in law is Air Force and out of that base and the closing will send him to either New Jersey or Jacksonville Fla.

I wished him luck on Sat. with whatever decisions come down ...... My
daughter and the grand kids will be shipping off with him ........ And they
are not too happy with it, to put it nicely .......

 

Actually, It's the largest in history.

827 total bases, of which 33 are major installations.

-Fatz.

 

Where do you get 827. Everything I see and read shows about 150 facilities plus the 33 major. Those facilities include places where they rent space and are consolidating them somewhere else.
I also question the use of major for some of those 33. So major that when you go to a site that lists all the major military bases and their history, they are not on the list.

http://www.military.com/Installation...11400,,00.html

Edit: Here's a site that lists the major closures in previous years.

http://www.oea.gov/oeaweb.nsf/BRAC+by+Year?OpenForm

 

Yep, I hosed it. 837 total installations are affected in one way or another; not necessarily losing jobs, just reorganized in some fashion.

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/milit...ases_5-13.html

I know what you mean about the 'major base' classification. I'll let you take up that battle with the DoD.

-Fatz

 

I was just going by closings. I realize the realignments will affect people (something I know a lot about, non-military related), but at least there will still be something there. I also understand why they are still doing closings. So many bases were built in the 40's to handle the 12 million active personnel. Active now is only about 2 million, all services. You don't need that many bases any more. I saw they are closing Ellis AFB and moving the B-1s to Texas. I quite understand that. How many air bases do you need to handle 65 B-1s. That's all there is. Even though it was the starting point for the submarine service, New London is one of 3 submarine bases on the east coast. Cuts are a pain, but at least they aren't "down sizing" the military like they have done so many times before. And often regreted it.

 

Pay particular attention to the part in red below!! This is just one more reason why employees need to contact their legislators and tell them to stop the NSPS.

FedNews Online features fast-breaking reports on the latest events in Federal agencies and

unions; new laws and regulations affecting government employees; exclusive interviews with

key officials; and articles featuring timely topics of interest to agencies and the people

behind their success - Federal employees.



Tuesday, May 17, 2005



In Today's Edition: (http://www.fednews-online.com)





2) INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR BRAC-AFFECTED EMPLOYEES



2) INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR BRAC-AFFECTED EMPLOYEES

http://www.fednews-online.com?publicationId=7890



The Department of Defense has created a brochure and a Web site for civilian employees whose jobs may be affected by actions of the Base Realignment and Closure process.



The Defense Department Friday recommended closing approximately 180 military installations, including 33 major bases. The plan would result in the loss of at least 18,000 civil service jobs and about 10,000 military positions around the country. While those numbers seem staggering, the Defense Department said that even though its civilian workforce has been reduced by 40 percent since the first BRAC rounds began in 1988, fewer than 10 percent of the affected employees were laid off.



Because the DoD recommendations must be approved by the BRAC Commission and then be accepted by Congress and the president, the fate of bases and jobs may not be known until September. By law, the closures and realignments must begin within a year of acceptance of the final BRAC list and must be completed within six years.



If an installation or activity is on the final BRAC list, employees will need to be aware of the programs and services available and understand the rules to make the best decisions about their options. This is particularly important in regard to layoff rules - typically veterans and those with the longest federal service are protected. However, the rules will be different at bases that have made the transition to the National Security Personnel System, and the DoD has said it will not delay implementation of NSPS until after the BRAC round is completed.



The DoD has several programs to ease the transition for at-risk employees by helping them find new jobs or leave federal service through early retirement or possible cash buyout packages. The available programs, benefits and services are outlined in a brochure that is available at http://www.cpms.osd.mil/bractransiti...re5_5_05v7.pdf



The DoD BRAC transition Web site may be found at http://www.cpms.osd.mil/bractransition/index.htm

 

Hey Kingfish,
Sorry, I'm playing catch up.... Some buddies from my last deployment were in town & we were tearing up the town. AND the forum changed!!!! Still adjusting to that....

anyway, from what I hear it's gonna be a long while in the process.... what I hear the goal is to move personnel to Belvoir & possibly to NNMC. Rumors flying on building a 'new' WRAMC at Belvoir or adding to NNMC. And trying to keep the personnel for a while....and all becoming a giant tri-service area.

For me it's no biggie.... WRAMC doesn't have any active duty nurse practitioners seeing patients (or so I've heard). And I don't finish up my masters until next May. Most of the active duty folk don't seem to concerned & I don't know many civs at WRAMC.