cargo weight also has a lot to do with stopping power, suspencion, and drivetrain strength.

 

It could be the light 3/4 that Chevy use to make. They still called them 2500.

DANG IT!!!
Here I thought my 2000 F-150 only had a curb weight of 1000 lbs. and my wifes Explorer was only 500 lbs. I wondered why my dads unrated Honda Gold Wing weighed 600 lbs and got better gas mileage than the Explorer that weighed 100 lbs. less.


Seriousley though the only difference between any Rated vehicle of any make. Is the rear axle housing, the actual axle design and the leaf springs, sometimes bigger brakes too. Other than that they are all the exact same drive line in a 1 and a 1/2 ton as there is in a 1/2 ton. Even the actual gears are interchangable. It's not until dueces when Air brakes are offered and the driveline changes in some.

 

if it is 17 years old and in the shape of most 17 year old vehicles,

#1, he has nothing too lose, it is 17 years old and a bent bumper or chipped paint...who cares

#2 if it is in good shape or a rebuilt motor the 88 350 made around 200 hp and 300 ft torque at a fairly low rpm. probably has better gears and a better trans. the 88 was the 1st or 2nd year that the throttle body fuel injection came out.

i have a $1100 ebay 1977 f150 with a mild 460 (429 timing chain, motor, ford racing cam, 10 to 1 pistons, edlebrock performer rpm and headers) with a c-6 and a 3.89 detroit locker rear end (destoyed my brothers 04 hemi dodge that runs 15.2, 1/4 miles) and i will hook up to any i-6 300 ford you have, owned one, highly over rated, slow and 11 mpg. i think the granny gear made a lot of people think the engine was more than it was.

i own a 01 , 5.4 and anyone that tells you the torque is comparible to the old big blocks needs to lay off the crack pipe.

 

My I-6 was 3 on the tree... There wasn't a granny gear...
Over rated is a matter of opinion formed by driving style and driver demands. I haven't had a 300 in 16 years but I would have another. I do have a Jeep Cherokee 4.0 I6, 5spd that I would hook axle to axle against a big block and not sweat it.

There is no horse power replacement for displacment, but HP is only a 1/4 of the battle and is always a double edged sword. It cuts everyone who rely's on it alone every time.

 

left foot on clutch, right foot on gas to take slack out of chain.

trans in neutral, right foot on brake

other vehicle starts spinning, right foot still on brake you step out.

you get back in, right on brake left on clutch you put it in gear.

at this point you need to release the break, while releasing the clutch and giving it gas with out spinning yourself and not letting the more poweful, heavier vehicle get any momentum , how do you do all 3? no way the emergency brake (2 back tires) keeps the 1 ton, 4 tire spinning dually from dragging you, need front and back to hold it back.

this could maybe work with an automatic but how do you pull it off in a stick. i remember powerbreaking my 5.0 mustang but it would lung forward a little plus you went from no throttle to all throttle and dumping the clutch.

 

OMG please tell me your joking.. right??
I really don't know if to laugh or be concerned.
If your serious all I can say is. "That poor Mustang."

If you would have offered a wager on it I would call Shark.

If that is really your driving style a 2wd 4 banger Ranger would stand a chance at pulling you even if you were in a 4x4, diesel, tow truck, with a 2 spd rear end.




I have to ask this....... Even though I am scared of the answer...

How did you take off on an incline in your 5.0?

 

touchy... touchy

when i took off on a hill the car rolled backwards for a split second, this is when the spinning 1 ton dually would pull your idleing I6

 

I can not find an appropriate icon to express the humor... We are litterally rolling over here. My wife just fell out of her chair laughing (note: she can't drive a stick very well either.)

 

Heel-Toe

 

on the heel tow thing, i know how this works but have never tried it with a 1 ton dually trying to pull the other way. i suspect most havent and that why i asked the question.

things like tires, pavement, concrete, mud, dirt, gravel or a clay surface make a diference also. also how long ago it happened and your level of alcohol might have something to do with the "story" also.

PSS-MAG tell your wife i am glad i gave her some enjoyment. guess she is used to the size dosent matter arguement (I6 vs 460)

 

Yea I've heard people use that, but it sure takes a long time to cross the ocean in a row boat..

Seriousley though...That's how your suppose to take off on an incline in a standard. If you drive a stick it is second nature to side step the brake & gas pedals. I'd better not ever catch her letting a car roll backwards, I would have a cow! That is so dangerous and tears up so much. (hince the poor mustang comment)
Rule of thumb if it doesn't look or sound profesional. Your probabley doing something wrong.

My F-150 is the first Automatic I've had in 12 years. I like it most of the time but often there are task that it can't do that I could make a standard do if it wasn't an automatic. You lose a lot of versatility and utilatarian abilities with automatics.

 

You didnt ask a question...
You stated your driving style assuming that everyone else did the same thing.

Side stepping is also how you do a burn out in a Standard with out dumping the clutch and flooring it. That poor Mustang...




Edited to add:
PS,
I'm not most, I've done it more than once...Someitmes they were sticks too but majority was automatic. This was a past time when I was in school. We're a bunch of farm boys so we all had work trucks for hauling hay etc. Racing wasn't much of an option for these trucks but everybody always wants to show how much better their vehicles are so pulls became the rage. I've completly shelled some of my rear ends out and I've also ripped axles out form under some guys trucks. It wasnt untill after high school that we could afford to have cars too and started racing.

 

I'm Sorry I don't mean to seem so rough. I'm trying to do it all as a joke too, but there is a lot of seriousness in the subject too.