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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:40 AM
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Different state,different gas ?

I just got back from a short road trip to PA.I filled the tank and left from central NJ and drove to Tunkhannock PA(180 miles) 14.6 m.p.g.Filled up and drove back the same route,speed etc.17.4 m.p.g. side note to self:move back to PA.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:47 AM
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I understand what you mean. I drove from Louisiana to West Virginia last month and when I put BP gas in the truck, I only got 12 MPG, then I stopped at a chevron and ended up getting 16 mpg, which is what I typically get. I couldn't beleive the difference, and I did this while before I reached any big mountains. I too was surprised by the results.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:50 AM
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Boy, you wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I doubt the gas quality varies too much from NJ to PA. Just one of those unexplainable things that goes on with vehicles.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:31 AM
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Around here chevrons gas is much better than the others. Its all I use.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:46 AM
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Boy, you wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I doubt the gas quality varies too much from NJ to PA. Just one of those unexplainable things that goes on with vehicles.
I doubt it's the quality either. However, the additives vary greatly from state to state, and county to county within a state.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 12:50 PM
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Higher the BTU content is the better the gas mileage will be
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:02 PM
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I don't know about state to state, but here in the great white north. We have "winter gas" and it drops your MPG like a rock. I've heard it was (up to) 10% ethenol, which burns faster then gas.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 03:52 PM
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Why were you in Tunchannok? You were only bout 10 minutes away from me, I live inbetween there and Nicholson off of rt92
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 06:20 PM
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My uncle passed away and we had to make arangements.My moms family is from Meshoppen originally.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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Actually, it is the lack of quality. BP gas has less BTU's than most other brands. Mike Troyer told me this a few years ago. After checking fuel mileage, he was right. I only use shell or chevron in my rides now.
 
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Old Mar 13, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Sunoco or Citco for me
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 07:42 AM
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Guys!

Here's one I can answer! (hooray!) I deliver gasoline to gas stations, so I do know something about this.

Regular gas is regular gas. Just like milk is milk. When I load my tanker at a terminal, I get gasoline from a huge tank, pumped through a line and into my trailer. Now, if I get Citgo, or Hess, or Mobil, or Sunoco, or Shell, it all comes from the same tank! The differences are the additives that are injected at the time of loading. Quite frankly, there is little difference in additives, so one brand is pretty much as good, or as poor, as the next.

Super, or Premium is just slightly different. Here, Sun gets their own tank, it's different from all other brands.

Now, All this correct for _A_ ship load, and _A_ State.

When the terminal gets a ship loaded with gasoline, it must be tested before it is offloaded. It must meet *minimum* standards. It is often, but not always, better than minimum. Therefore, you can, and will, get differences depending on when you buy, not brand. These differences will be quite minor though.

Now, Connecticut requires the use of a Reformulated gasoline, adds 10% Ethanol, and during cold weather requires an oxygenated formula as well. Massachusetts does the same except does not require the Ethanol. They still use MTBE (REAL poison!). New York has a mix, depending on the county. Pennsylvania is another State with a mix of rules. I'm not sure about New Jersey.

Bottom line? Making the fuel oxygenated hurts MPG to the tune of about 7% Reformulated gas won't give as good a mileage as non reformulated. Ethanol kicks the crap out of mileage! Although, it's 10% less oil bought from Middle East sources.

So yes, you WILL definitely see a difference going from state to state. In some states, you WILL see a difference during the cold weather. You MAY see a slight difference locally during the same season.

I can't recommend any brand. I work for Citgo, so I haul only Citgo. But, the truck next to me may be loading Mobil, Shell, Gulf or Hess. All out of the same tank! At the next terminal, they load Mobil, Shell, Valero and BP. At another terminal, on the other side, they load Gulf and BP.

Just to be complete, for purely personal reasons, I use Mobil in my vehicles.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 08:42 AM
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Flagship, Maryland is another state with a mix. Western counties do not need to use the oxygenated fuels in the winter like central and eastern MD. Of course when the weather gets cold, the milage goes down, then add the oxygenated stuff and it goes down further. Makes you wonder if you really are polluting less. Using more gas that pollutes less per gallon, or less gas that pollutes more per gallon.
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 10:28 AM
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Thanks Flagship and Kingfish1

Now I know
 
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Old Mar 14, 2005 | 11:06 AM
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Originally posted by jhogan
Boy, you wouldn't think there would be that much of a difference. I doubt the gas quality varies too much from NJ to PA. Just one of those unexplainable things that goes on with vehicles.
jhogan,

What are the odds of talking you into taking some pictures of the scenery/local wildlife in your area?

The wife and I would looooove to live in Vermont.

<edit> Damn spelling
 
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