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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 07:47 PM
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Glad Bush won!

And boy, invading Iraq sure drove down prices!


At least all his friends are getting rich..................
umm, Dave-
That sure sounds as if you don't understand politics or foreign policy very well. The only ones babbling on about this war being about oil were the mud-slinging liberals trying to discredit the President. Do you have any idea what the Iraq war is about? It doesn't look like it, and I'm sure you won't hear the complete truth on CNN or CBS.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 08:55 PM
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Scratch that, I just paid $1.85 :\
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:15 PM
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93 at Chevron in Houston $2.03. I am glad that my company pays for ALL of my gas.

I go through 2 to 4 tanks a week.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
umm, Dave-
That sure sounds as if you don't understand politics or foreign policy very well. The only ones babbling on about this war being about oil were the mud-slinging liberals trying to discredit the President. Do you have any idea what the Iraq war is about? It doesn't look like it, and I'm sure you won't hear the complete truth on CNN or CBS.

Yeah I have a vague idea what it is about. Since I was there in 1990 and again in 2002.

And the war in Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11

If there was no oil in the Mid-East, you wouldn't even hear about that region.
 

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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 09:56 PM
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Well we’re certainly not there for the oil; stability in the Middle East would be a nice outcome though.
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:35 PM
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Truth is, Western society has energy demands that must be met. Plain and simple.

ANYTHING that threatens the engery supply is a threat to Western society, plain and simple.

Then there's the matter of diarming a threatening, region-unstabilizing madman. If you think most Iraqis would rather have Sadaam in power, you are mistaken.

So many people wanted the Iraqi elections to fail. Which is sad, IMHO.

The US and the rest of western society pay a fair price for oil.

I, on the other hand, pay an unfair $2.43 per gallon
 
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Old Mar 4, 2005 | 10:37 PM
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Diesel in Savannah, GAS = $2.13. Ouch!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
When I bought my F250 SD last March, diesel was at $1.30.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 03:22 AM
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Originally posted by RockyJSquirrel
umm, Dave-
That sure sounds as if you don't understand politics or foreign policy very well. The only ones babbling on about this war being about oil were the mud-slinging liberals trying to discredit the President. Do you have any idea what the Iraq war is about? It doesn't look like it, and I'm sure you won't hear the complete truth on CNN or CBS.
The war was about all of the WMD that posed a grave threat to America.......Errrr, where are the WMD again?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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We're at $2.06 today. Haven't seen gas under $2.00 since we moved here 2 years ago...
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 03:48 AM
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I filled up with 89 at $1.92 here in Bentonville, AR
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Originally posted by kamikaze2b
The war was about all of the WMD that posed a grave threat to America.......Errrr, where are the WMD again?
Not sure, but you could start by asking the entire free world, those associated with the United Nations. You could ask old Europe and new Europe, or you could ask all your liberal buddies like Clinton, Gore, Kennedy, Kerry and his pals…

They all stated over and over and over how Iraq was a serious threat to the region because they HAD WMD’S, they all stated, at least Clinton, Gore, Kennedy, Kerry and his pals how we needed regime change. They all backed us going to war with Iraq…

The problem is they all backed us going to war in Iraq when Clinton was the President and then their values changed over night when Bush became President and knew he wasn’t talking the talk but walking the walk…

Silly liberals, their values can change over night…
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:37 AM
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Originally posted by Dave02
Yeah I have a vague idea what it is about. Since I was there in 1990 and again in 2002.

And the war in Iraq has nothing to do with terrorism or 9/11

If there was no oil in the Mid-East, you wouldn't even hear about that region.
Unfortunately your idea is extremely vague…

The war is directly related to terrorism. Let me try to explain this very briefly so you will have a good solid understanding instead of something vague based on sound bites from liberals.

You see the fundamental reason, or one of the fundamental reasons people become terrorist is because they are people who have been reprised. They basically have nothing else to live for and nothing to lose. They are brain washed into believing somehow their problems are America and the Western worlds fault.

Can’t blame the idiots because that is what they are brainwashed since they are NOT a free people.

In free societies people are MUCH LESS likely to become terrorist willing to die for some stupid cause. Why, because they have many reason to live a productive life, because they have the freedom to make choices based on many different opinions shared freely among many people. Their society is not closed off to the rest of the world and thus they know what is REALLY happening in the real world.

Here is a little experiment for you. Find a wild animal, catch it and put it in a pin. Then go inside and back it into a corner and see what happens. They wild animal being pinned in a corner is going to attack you because that is the only option it believes it has…

Yes, there is oil in the region and yes it is very important to not only America but also the entire free world but more important is stability. Stability in the Middle East will greatly reduce terrorism and insure there is continued uninterrupted supply of oil.

There is nothing evil about oil and that is what liberals just cannot seem to learn. Oil is what makes the world go around and if you don’t believe that you will continue to have vague ideas of how the world, world economy and world stability actual work…
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 08:48 AM
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I paid $2.15 at the cheap place for 87 Octane...up where I work it's over $2.50 a gallon
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:34 AM
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Originally posted by 01 XLT Sport
Unfortunately your idea is extremely vague…

The war is directly related to terrorism. Let me try to explain this very briefly so you will have a good solid understanding instead of something vague based on sound bites from liberals.

You see the fundamental reason, or one of the fundamental reasons people become terrorist is because they are people who have been reprised. They basically have nothing else to live for and nothing to lose. They are brain washed into believing somehow their problems are America and the Western worlds fault.

Can’t blame the idiots because that is what they are brainwashed since they are NOT a free people.

In free societies people are MUCH LESS likely to become terrorist willing to die for some stupid cause. Why, because they have many reason to live a productive life, because they have the freedom to make choices based on many different opinions shared freely among many people. Their society is not closed off to the rest of the world and thus they know what is REALLY happening in the real world.

Here is a little experiment for you. Find a wild animal, catch it and put it in a pin. Then go inside and back it into a corner and see what happens. They wild animal being pinned in a corner is going to attack you because that is the only option it believes it has…

Yes, there is oil in the region and yes it is very important to not only America but also the entire free world but more important is stability. Stability in the Middle East will greatly reduce terrorism and insure there is continued uninterrupted supply of oil.

There is nothing evil about oil and that is what liberals just cannot seem to learn. Oil is what makes the world go around and if you don’t believe that you will continue to have vague ideas of how the world, world economy and world stability actual work…

You have no idea WTF you are talking about.

First of all I am not a liberal. I've been registered Republican for 19 years and I think Regan was the greatest president we've had in the last 20 years. I hate the current Pres. He is an idiot that did drugs, and shirked his duty to serve in Vietnam and bankrupted 3 businesses before becoming gov of Texas.
I'm 37 and a 2x combat vet that seved in the military and have been over to Iraq, S.A., Yemen, U.A.E., Kuwait, Bahrain, Qatar, Isreal and Lebenon in that region.

The mid east is all about religous conflict and always will be. There has been fighting going on there since Sumer, Akkad, Babylon, and Assyria and there always will be. When the US pulls out, the Sunnis and Shias will go back to killing each other, as they have done for 2000 years. There will be civil war.

There was a reason Bush Sr. stopped our route of the Iraq Army before Bagdad. Cripple his military so he can't destablilze the region any more than it already is, and leave him in charge so we don't have to deal with the mess we have now.

If this war was really about terrorism, then why don't we have a larger presence in Afganistan, where Oslama is hiding? HE is the one that attacked the US. Not Iraq. If they thought a country would give Oslama WMD, then why didn't we invade Iran, which has a breeding nuclear reactor.

Then again why didn't we invade Saud? That is where Oslama is from and where there is more Islamic Extremism than Iraq.

I don't think oil is evil. If I did, I wouldn't drive a gas guzzling Lightning. If I had my way, the US would invade U.A.E., make it our 51st state and have all the oil we need, so we wouldn't have to kowtow to that region. But that wouldn't be PC.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Originally posted by Dave02
You have no idea WTF you are talking about.
Actually, I do...

Oh, and I too served in the military for 10 years, 1982 – 1993. Serving in the military has no bearing whatsoever when it comes to ”knowing what’s going on in the Middle East”

You do have some good points but then it seems you believe we should try and solve everything at one time. Not going to happen. We had to deal with a problem that the last administration did not deal with properly, nor did the United Nations.

It’s not pretty and maybe wasn’t the first problem to deal with but nonetheless it was the one making not only us but other western nations look like idiots who just sat around talking instead of acting. This President acted and in case you haven’t noticed there is a lot of changes happening in the Middle East as a DIRECT result of President Bush’s actions.
 
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