Florida Pasco County Bans X-mas trees: "Religious Symbol"
Florida Pasco County Bans X-mas trees: "Religious Symbol"
I read this morning that Pasco county authorities have banned the display of X-mas trees in public places because they are a religious symbole.
hummm, what's next on the chopping block: Valentines day Hart, Halloween Pumpkins, Thanks Giving Turkey...
Man, this world is getting way too politically correct.
Dpostman
hummm, what's next on the chopping block: Valentines day Hart, Halloween Pumpkins, Thanks Giving Turkey...
Man, this world is getting way too politically correct.
Dpostman
I'm guessing that someone with too much time on their hands is working on outlawing military regalia on vetran's day. How could anyone not find thhat offensive?
Tid reminds me of that South Park episode where they ban anything holiday related at all.
Tid reminds me of that South Park episode where they ban anything holiday related at all.
Originally posted by spray004
In all public places or just government buildings, lands, etc...??
In all public places or just government buildings, lands, etc...??
I hate all this PC stuff. Comes up every year. When did a make believe Santa Clause and Christmas tree’s get mixed into religious items that offend people.
People bit'ch just to bit'ch. This offends me, that offends me, I have my rights, blaaa blaaa.
You don't like it, change the channel. How can anyone seriously say “My day is ruined because I saw a Christmas tree.” WTF. Get a life.
People bit'ch just to bit'ch. This offends me, that offends me, I have my rights, blaaa blaaa.
You don't like it, change the channel. How can anyone seriously say “My day is ruined because I saw a Christmas tree.” WTF. Get a life.
Absolutely no one is complaining about seeing a Christmas tree. The problem is the mindset of some out-of-touch liberal do-gooder gov't officials who think that it's their duty to protect all the 'oppressed and underpriveleged' from being offended by real life. The solution is to vote out these idiots who are creating and enforcing these idiotic laws due to their twisted and warped sense of 'public good'.
85% of Americans are Christians but Christianity is being outlawed from public view. It disgusts me and it should disgust you as well. It would disgust me regardless of the religion. Could you imagine the official uproar if someone suggested banishing any mention of Hannakah or Kawanzza? I'm sick of it and sick of moronic officials telling me what religious symbols they think I should be allowed to see or hear.

People are like sheep and go along with whatever some official tells them. It's time for a few people to stand up for their own rights instead of constantly letting moronic officials continue to trample our rights.
85% of Americans are Christians but Christianity is being outlawed from public view. It disgusts me and it should disgust you as well. It would disgust me regardless of the religion. Could you imagine the official uproar if someone suggested banishing any mention of Hannakah or Kawanzza? I'm sick of it and sick of moronic officials telling me what religious symbols they think I should be allowed to see or hear.

People are like sheep and go along with whatever some official tells them. It's time for a few people to stand up for their own rights instead of constantly letting moronic officials continue to trample our rights.
Last edited by RockyJSquirrel; Dec 17, 2004 at 03:51 PM.
I read an article on our local news site that Pasco county reversed its decision and told these places to put up trees immediately. The article said that all this came about because some lawyers advised them to do it. It's just lke some other places throughout the country banned things like Merry Christmas, it has to be said happy holidays instead. Or how about they can't call it a christmas tree, they have to call it a holiday tree.
All it takes is one person to complain because they think they can get a large sum of money if they sue because "it is against their religion" or "it offended me". Then someone agrees so that maybe they can be part of a large settlement, then the next thing you know, boom, there are lots of people doing saying these things, because they might make some easy money. It's all about the money.
All it takes is one person to complain because they think they can get a large sum of money if they sue because "it is against their religion" or "it offended me". Then someone agrees so that maybe they can be part of a large settlement, then the next thing you know, boom, there are lots of people doing saying these things, because they might make some easy money. It's all about the money.
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Can you say A.C.L.U.?
They are the legal group who believes the rights of the few should be able to stomp all over the rights of the many. Democracy is nice, as long as it doesn't interfere with liberal politics.
They are the legal group who believes the rights of the few should be able to stomp all over the rights of the many. Democracy is nice, as long as it doesn't interfere with liberal politics.
Someone needs to show them this: (Note rule #8, I think it applies to this topic)
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The Twelve Rules of Christmas
(Compiled by attorneys for The Rutherford Institute)
Unfortunately, Christmas has become a time of controversy over what can or cannot be done in terms of celebrating the holiday. In order to clear up much of the misunderstanding, the following twelve rules are offered. These are rules that cannot, by law, be violated:
1. Public school students’ written or spoken personal expressions concerning the religious significance of Christmas (e.g., T-shirts with the slogan, "Jesus Is the Reason for the Season") may not be censored by school officials absent evidence that the speech would cause a substantial disruption.
2. So long as teachers are generally permitted to wear clothing or jewelry or have personal items expressing their views about the holidays, Christian teachers may not be prohibited from similarly expressing their views by wearing Christmas-related clothing or jewelry or carrying Christmas-related personal items.
3. Public schools may teach students about the Christmas holiday, including its religious significance, so long as it is taught objectively for secular purposes such as its historical or cultural importance, and not for the purpose of promoting Christianity.
4. Public school teachers may send Christmas cards to the families of their students so long as they do so on their own time, outside of school hours.
5. Public schools may include Christmas music, including those with religious themes, in their choral programs if the songs are included for a secular purpose such as their musical quality or cultural value or if the songs are part of an overall performance including other holiday songs relating to Chanukah, Kwanzaa, or other similar holidays.
6. Public schools may not require students to sing Christmas songs whose messages conflict with the students’ own religious or nonreligious beliefs.
7. Public school students may not be prohibited from distributing literature to fellow students concerning the Christmas holiday or invitations to church Christmas events on the same terms that they would be allowed to distribute other literature that is not related to schoolwork.
8. Private citizens or groups may display crèches or other Christmas symbols in public parks subject to the same reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions that would apply to other similar displays.
9. Government entities may erect and maintain celebrations of the Christmas holiday, such as Christmas trees and Christmas light displays, and may include crèches in their displays at least so long as the purpose for including the crèche is not to promote its religious content and it is placed in context with other symbols of the Holiday season as part of an effort to celebrate the public Christmas holiday through its traditional symbols.
10. Neither public nor private employers may prevent employees from decorating their offices for Christmas, playing Christmas music, or wearing clothing related to Christmas merely because of their religious content so long as these activities are not used to harass or intimidate others.
11. Public or private employees whose sincerely held religious beliefs require that they not work on Christmas must be reasonably accommodated by their employers unless granting the accommodation would impose an undue hardship on the employer.
12. Government recognition of Christmas as a public holiday and granting government employees a paid holiday for Christmas does not violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment
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The Twelve Rules of Christmas
(Compiled by attorneys for The Rutherford Institute)
Unfortunately, Christmas has become a time of controversy over what can or cannot be done in terms of celebrating the holiday. In order to clear up much of the misunderstanding, the following twelve rules are offered. These are rules that cannot, by law, be violated:
1. Public school students’ written or spoken personal expressions concerning the religious significance of Christmas (e.g., T-shirts with the slogan, "Jesus Is the Reason for the Season") may not be censored by school officials absent evidence that the speech would cause a substantial disruption.
2. So long as teachers are generally permitted to wear clothing or jewelry or have personal items expressing their views about the holidays, Christian teachers may not be prohibited from similarly expressing their views by wearing Christmas-related clothing or jewelry or carrying Christmas-related personal items.
3. Public schools may teach students about the Christmas holiday, including its religious significance, so long as it is taught objectively for secular purposes such as its historical or cultural importance, and not for the purpose of promoting Christianity.
4. Public school teachers may send Christmas cards to the families of their students so long as they do so on their own time, outside of school hours.
5. Public schools may include Christmas music, including those with religious themes, in their choral programs if the songs are included for a secular purpose such as their musical quality or cultural value or if the songs are part of an overall performance including other holiday songs relating to Chanukah, Kwanzaa, or other similar holidays.
6. Public schools may not require students to sing Christmas songs whose messages conflict with the students’ own religious or nonreligious beliefs.
7. Public school students may not be prohibited from distributing literature to fellow students concerning the Christmas holiday or invitations to church Christmas events on the same terms that they would be allowed to distribute other literature that is not related to schoolwork.
8. Private citizens or groups may display crèches or other Christmas symbols in public parks subject to the same reasonable time, place, and manner restrictions that would apply to other similar displays.
9. Government entities may erect and maintain celebrations of the Christmas holiday, such as Christmas trees and Christmas light displays, and may include crèches in their displays at least so long as the purpose for including the crèche is not to promote its religious content and it is placed in context with other symbols of the Holiday season as part of an effort to celebrate the public Christmas holiday through its traditional symbols.
10. Neither public nor private employers may prevent employees from decorating their offices for Christmas, playing Christmas music, or wearing clothing related to Christmas merely because of their religious content so long as these activities are not used to harass or intimidate others.
11. Public or private employees whose sincerely held religious beliefs require that they not work on Christmas must be reasonably accommodated by their employers unless granting the accommodation would impose an undue hardship on the employer.
12. Government recognition of Christmas as a public holiday and granting government employees a paid holiday for Christmas does not violate the Establishment Clause of the First Amendment
I have 2 lines that I use when someone complains that something I do offends them.
"I was put on this earth to offend people."
"You bull**** is offending me so shut the hell up."
Usually shuts them up, if not I laugh at them some more until they leave. I cant stand people like that though. They have nothing better to do than to ruin things for normal people who work instead of sitting and protesting.
"I was put on this earth to offend people."
"You bull**** is offending me so shut the hell up."
Usually shuts them up, if not I laugh at them some more until they leave. I cant stand people like that though. They have nothing better to do than to ruin things for normal people who work instead of sitting and protesting.


