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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:46 PM
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Time to Unite…

President Bush has been reelected President of the United States by the majority of the citizens of this great country. It received more popular votes then any other President in history.

With that said, it was as I predicted, won by a very close 3 points. (I predicted a win by 3 – 6 points). This means a record number of citizens turned out to vote for one of two men to lead this country and the vote makes a bold statement about America.

To me the statement I hear loud and clear is we are a divided nation which appears to have two completely different views on many issues. My own personal opinion on how to move this country closer together is to once and for all GET OVER IT!!!!!!!!

I mean that for both sides of the isle, this time around, the past 4 years have basically been the democrats whining about one thing or the other. Prior to that there were many republicans, during Clinton’s 8 years in office whining about one thing or the other.

It has been this way for at least the past 12 years (8 years for Clinton and 4 years for Bush) the leaders of this country acting like children fighting over who gets to play with “the” toy. My point being is it has been each parties fault and their leaders basically equally and it is time as Americans to come together and tell our leaders LOUD AND CLEAR to get OVER IT once and for all, let bygones be bygones.

Rather then “not” listening to the other side and their ideas and using one liner to tear the other guy down, the name calling, and the outright lies perpetrated by both sides of the isle it is time to listen. We do not have to agree with the other person but listen and argue your point of why you feel your idea or solution is better and how you “logically” do not think the other idea or solution will work and do it RESPECTFULLY. It’s called logical debate which should be practiced by adults and I EXPECT this from all my elected officials rather they are republicans or democrats.

If we, the American citizens, allow our elected officials to continue as they have done the past 12 years we will never get very far, we will be taking baby steps and just pissing each other off for no other reason then revenge.

This nation will only come together as one IF and only IF our elected officials act like adults and leaders, act like the people they should act like because that is why we elected them to begin with. It is up to them and up to every one of us to let them know what our expectations are of them, no more of this revenge tactics from both sides for the past 12 years…
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:07 PM
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Agreed... Just remember to live by the same teachings you are preaching!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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That really sounds great, in theory.

But reality really sucks.

Oh well, group hug and nanners foreveryone..

Sled...
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:04 PM
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Great idea Burt, too bad it probably won't work out. You know I feel that both sides, good and bad, are of great value, and help keep us balanced. The fighting between parties has gone on for longer than 12 years, and will, unfortunately, continue for a lot longer. Sorry NH didn't carry Bush, and you got a Democrat Gov, but it all worked out in the end for Bush, so no big deal.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:19 PM
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I love you guys. Somebody hold me.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:08 PM
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Well said Burt.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:17 PM
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This post isnt meant to make anyone mad. But who's familiar with Glenn Beck? He stated:

"Tomorrow, we heal and unite, but today we gloat"

http://www.glennbeck.com/

Being a conservative, I love it because I have gotten beat up day in, day out by dozens of my liberal co-workers about how Bush the Bum is getting thrown out, blah blah blah (I consult for a State Agency). But I swear, tomorrow I will try and unite and heal................
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 06:44 PM
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Yep......

He's my President again.
Iam an american, so I support MY PRESIDENT

I just have, a sick to my stomach feeling, after watching Mr Moores movie. Now I understand he was pushing his idea, but if it was an out and out lie, with the lawyers in this country, Michael Moore would be in prison/sued for slander!
He's not, so that tells me there's something to the Bush/Saudia connection that stinks.

Oh well, only 4 more years of worring about my job
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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Originally posted by Fast Gator
Yep......

He's my President again.
Iam an american, so I support MY PRESIDENT

I just have, a sick to my stomach feeling, after watching Mr Moores movie. Now I understand he was pushing his idea, but if it was an out and out lie, with the lawyers in this country, Michael Moore would be in prison/sued for slander!
He's not, so that tells me there's something to the Bush/Saudia connection that stinks.

Oh well, only 4 more years of worring about my job
I said the same thing..... Those lawyers would have Mike Moore pinching pennies trying to save up to go to the dollar store if it was all a lie; or a lie at all.

Things have gotten so bad here, illegal immigrants are sneaking back into Mexico... (LOL).

Support the President?
Sure, I will do the same- after all, I am a former soldier- and am used to doing things I don't like to do, or necessarily agree with.

It's over now, we had our chance, 55.6 million of us said "No more!"- while 58.6 million said "I'm scared too, so sure- I can take four more years of this!"

Bitter-much? Sure- why not? But, alas- these four years will pass- and with God's graces hopefully they'll be a better four than the last four have been.... Somehow, some way.

One way to look at it; no winning President ever got so many votes. I'll accept that. But, I bet no past (winning) President ever got as many votes as Kerry did either- and he lost. What's that say to you? I think last time they both got 49 - 50 million votes. This time it was 58 - 55. An "extra" 14,000,000 voters showed up. I think that's awesome!

Man, we're split right down the middle- and the middle is where we oughtta be, and gotta et back to. This far right, far left crap and talk radio spinning everyone into respective corners has got to go...

The coolest thing about a Kerry win would have been to hear Sean Hannidy grovel in his own democratic/Kerry contempt. He was crying (whinning) like a little girl on the radio yesterday evening when it looked like Kerry was going to win. At least I had a few hours of joy!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:36 PM
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I have to respectfully disagree with the lawyers and Moore. Now I am not here to say that everything stated in Moore’s movie was an outright lie but I do believe many things were taken out of context and skewed to a point that one could call it a lie or at the very least misleading.

I don’t know if there is or was a connection between Bush and the Saudis and I doubt anyone will ever know for sure one way or the other.

As much as I can not stand Moore and his tactics with his movie I would be or would have been one of the first to back his right to say what ever he wanted in his movie if lawyers got involved with trying to sue him.

While he may have slandered President Bush it wouldn’t matter because if the entire movie was a slander it was about a person serving in an elected political position, or about the “President” and Moore has as much right to say anything he wants, lie or truth, slander or not about any person who is in an elected office. Should he have been sued it would have went against every principle, specifically the First Amendment, in our Constitution and I would have been strongly against that based on principle alone and no love or hate towards Moore.


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Yes, President Bush got the most votes any elected President has every received and YES Kerry got the second most votes over any other President that has won, he even got more votes then Gore did in 2000. This year was a record setting turn out for voting, no other time in history has this amount of votes been cast.

I would say as you did that 48% of the population turned out for Kerry, either to say no more or that they like his ideas better but I wouldn’t say the other 51% turned out because they were scared and figured “keep this guy for now”. The 51% that turned out for President Bush, the vast majority of them voted for him because that is the person they felt could do the better job, nothing to do with being scared.

Rarely, if ever, will you ever have a vast majority of people agreeing with one persons ideas, views and visions but I would argue that rather then stating something that just is not true to justify why the “other side” voted the way they did to be honest about it and see it for what it is, not that they hated the other guy they just agreed with more of the ideas, views and visions of the guy they voted for…
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 07:48 PM
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Now I understand he was pushing his idea, but if it was an out and out lie, with the lawyers in this country, Michael Moore would be in prison/sued for slander!
i am sure he consulted top lawyers before doing it, wouldnt be suprised if there is an insurance policy that covers law suites. Putting him on trial only gives the fat b@stard a bigger platform to push his ideas. maybe, just maybe we leaned something for spending all the time and energy to go after Clinton and all it did was further divide people and in the end the results didnt change a thing.
if prosiquited and found guiltly, there would still be those that believed it. Seems that judging from the election results that Bush had his day against Moore, no revenge better than success.

i realize there are people who think Moore has the best intentions, I am sure he has his a$$ covered and the money is safe. I am sure there is some fine print somewhere.

Man, we're split right down the middle
not quite right down the middle

seriously, isnt the vote usually something like 48 - 52 or 55 -45. Percentage wise what has been the closest election and the furtherest apart in the last 50 to 60 years? I beat on paper this one is average (percentage to percentage)
 

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:02 PM
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Time for my 6 month sabbatical.
See you all in the spring when they stop selling us winter formulated gas.
*out*
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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There's no way in hell Bush or anyone else is going to sue MM for slander. First, he would LOVE the publicity. Second, Bush would look like an **** just for suing him. O'Reilly made MM look like the big fat liar that he is during the Republican national convention. Either way, America will be better off and safer with Bush re-elected. Even though everyone doesn't see it that way.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 05:43 AM
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"President Bush got the most votes any elected President has every received and YES Kerry got the second most votes over any other President that has won"

Hmm, since, according to you 01, Kerry supporters really weren't Kerry supporters, but only I hate Bush types, wouldn't this mean that a record number of people turned out to vote against Bush? To vote against an incumbent during a war? An incumbent has never lost during a war, this could have been historic.
 
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Old Nov 4, 2004 | 06:41 AM
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Watching the MM movie, made me wonder about Bush, but I thought the power behind the throne was Chaney! Was I wrong?
 
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