Further Proof that Kerry was wrong man for the job.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Further Proof that Kerry was wrong man for the job.

he calls to concede before all of the votes are in while John Edwrads fights on saying "its not over yet"


If this guy can't even stand up for himself, how on earth will he stand up for 300 million Americans?


Maybe John Edwards should consider another run in 2008 (a real FU to Hilary if he does)
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:51 PM
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Actually I give a lot of credit for that, and he definitely proved me wrong. I was expecting him to go down swinging.

But if you look at it, Bush is well 100k ahead in Ohio, over 30k in NM, and just barely over in Iowa. So unless something drastic changes, Bush pretty much has it nailed.

So Kerry bowing out graciously shows a lot more character then I thought he had and a lot more then most will admit.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 02:19 PM
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Kerry is showing a bit of grace. But the man is still a lier. Even now it spews from him.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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I'm just glad it's over...no matter which way it went. I was getting sick of all the campaign ads, etc. But of course I am glad the person I supported won.

Kerry and Edwards speech just now was condescending. They talk as if the world is now coming to and end and 'just hang in there until we get back in office' seems to be the message. As if an American can't get a job without their help, won't have health insurance, etc, etc. It's all gone because GWB won, to hear them talk about it. Barf. I can't stand it...lol

 

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 02:43 PM
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He did the right thing. You can't change the math. Gore tried, remember? The dems don't need another black eye. They'd look like crybabies.

Personally Edwards speach was a bit 'angry'. Kerry was better, but lariatf150 makes good points.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by dzervit

Personally Edwards speach was a bit 'angry'.

I like that kind of fire in a leader. It's the same fire/refusal to back down that endears Bush to people, not to mention the likes of Reagan, JFK, Roosevelt, all the presidents that get their people fired up and unified.

Kerry wussing out like this reminds me of pushover Carter (nice guys finish last when you lead the world's only superpower)
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Geez man, if the guy would have contested the votes, you would have complained about that! Kerry did the right thing. Give him credit where it's due.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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Geez man, if the guy would have contested the votes, you would have complained about that! Kerry did the right thing. Give him credit where it's due.

when the vote is that close, you don't concede until all of the votes are in.

Al Gore screwed up because he conceeded and then decided to fight. I'm glad he did stand up for himself. It's just too bad he looked indecisive in the process.


I would have actually had more respect for Kerry. It would have shown me that he was a fighter that wouldn't back down even when it looked like the game was over.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 04:55 PM
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Actually by the time Kerry conceded, there wouldn't have been enough votes left for him to win after they were all counted.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by J-150
when the vote is that close, you don't concede until all of the votes are in..

Al Gore screwed up because he conceeded and then decided to fight. I'm glad he did stand up for himself. It's just too bad he looked indecisive in the process.


I would have actually had more respect for Kerry. It would have shown me that he was a fighter that wouldn't back down even when it looked like the game was over
Uhhh... 100,000+ vote lead at 99% reported isn't exactly close!!! And don't forget that number INCLUDED the absentee's. That leaves 125,000 or so UNVERIFIED provisional ballots. Not gonna happen. The votes will be counted anyway... and guess what, he'll still lose.

Al Gore shouldn't have changed his mind... he lost. After the recount. And the second recount. And every recount after that.

You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:33 PM
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Originally posted by dzervit


You gotta know when to hold 'em and know when to fold 'em.
...and when to walk away and when to run!" Funny I never pictured dzervit as a Kenny Rogers fan.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:38 PM
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Al Gore lost by what 350 votes? By that point we were debating (and sewing) over which votes to count with every criteria imaginable all the way down to if the 'chads' were still connected. 350 votes is well within the realm of game playing (on either side.) IMO, what Al Gore did was correct, and the Republicans would have done the exact same thing. A 125,000 vote deficit (with somewhere between 150,00 and 175,000 provisional votes to still be counted if they are proven legitate as it was last night) is an entirely different story. Kerry made the right decision to concede, and would have only divided the nation more-so had he chosen to start calling recounts and pushing lawsuits.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:42 PM
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Originally posted by fatman66
...and when to walk away and when to run!" Funny I never pictured dzervit as a Kenny Rogers fan.
Man I hate country music.... don't you follow my threads? Tuff-dude is the banjo-lovin' hee-haw nut.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:44 PM
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IMHO opinion, sKerry lost because of his voting record in the Senate and his flip-flopping. I've said it before, if the DNC could get behind a decent man like Lieberman, it would be about 60-40 nationwide. The DNC gets behind the most liberal-socialistic candidate they can and pushes him out there. I don't care how you slice it or how you vote, sKerry is a socialist, plain and simple.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 05:45 PM
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I know you hate country but the Kenny Rogers song quote was great! Thats like Goerge Bush quoting Ted Kennedy.
 
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