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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:33 AM
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Question The Great Divide

So atlast, it appears to all be over.... Looks a lot like Debuya has pulled it off once again assuming Ohio stays in the Bush column after all of the provisional votes are counted. (Congrats to all the Bush fans on here that got to see their guy pull it off.) So my question is this.... Where does the current great divide in our country source from? Right at half of the country has one view point on where our country is at, and how we should proceed in the years ahead, and the other half has a completely different view, with neither side having a whole lot of understanding of the opposing point of view. Contrary to the suggestions of many of the political threads as of late, there are extremely intelligent individuals on both sides of the fence. Both sides love their country dearly, and sincerely believe their viewpoint is in the best interest of our country as a whole. How can we all be Americans with atleast relatively similair cultures and backgrounds that truely love our country, and have our country's best interest at heart, and come to such drastically different points of view on where we are at and how to proceed? If anyone has any intelligent suggestions, I'd love to have a better understanding on why we are currently so divided, and how to overcome the division to go ahead in the future united as one. I think we can all agree that we will never get to where we need to be with one half of the country attempting to pull the other half in the opposite direction with neither side making much progress.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:37 AM
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I submit to you that division at this time is good. Gridlock in DC is good. We do not need more laws. Only the lawless need laws. America will survive and thrive. I am not worried. Even if sKerry was to get elected. Checks and balances, checks and balances.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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We all need to come together as one people. Kerry needs to work hard to repair the rip he has created in this country. We can get through this and we will. We will be strong!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:52 AM
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WHAT! Kerry "created a rift (sic)?" Good lord, but people are stupid! Bush has screwed up everything he's done in the last four years, and it's Kerry's fault?????!!!!!!!.

How many more good young men and women will we have to lose while Bush wrings his blood-soaked hands trying to figure out how to get out of this quicksand quagmire?

How many more giveaways to the wealthy and greedy corporations will we have to endure while more and more of us lose out health care or have to forego our drug prescriptions?

What an assinne statement.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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The Great Divide isn't all that Great. It comes from being human. Can you find 20 of your coworkers that all agree on anything? How do you expect 295,000,000 people to have consensus?
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:00 PM
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Originally posted by jaymz
WHAT! Kerry "created a rift (sic)?" Good lord, but people are stupid! Bush has screwed up everything he's done in the last four years, and it's Kerry's fault?????!!!!!!!.

How many more good young men and women will we have to lose while Bush wrings his blood-soaked hands trying to figure out how to get out of this quicksand quagmire?

How many more giveaways to the wealthy and greedy corporations will we have to endure while more and more of us lose out health care or have to forego our drug prescriptions?

What an assinne statement.
Good sir, you misunderstood what I said. Kerry has created a rift. That is fact. Look at how he ran his campaign, at his constant bashings of Bush, of our military and of our country. We need to unify, not deversify.
I also never blamed Kerry for the state of this country over the past four years. And really, whats been so bad about it? Our country is strong. Employment is strong. Our President IS STRONG!
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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Blood soaked hands? Surely you're talking about sKerry. After all, he participated in "atrocities" in Vietnam.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:09 PM
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And Bush didn't bash Kerry? Christ what a moroon.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Frank - While I agree with your opinion in pricipal, with the republicans having control of both the house and the congress, aswell as the white house, I guess my biggest fear is that there will not be substancial checks and balances. I would not want the democrats pushing their agenda thru without any checks and balances any more then I would want the repubicans pushing ahead unchecked with theirs.

Bullitt - To put the blame of the country's great divide squarely on Kerry's shoulders, and to ignore some of the decisions that have been made from the white house in the last few years seems relatively foolish to me. Let's get past the blame-game putting all of the problems on Bush or Kerry, and the "he's an idiot", "no your and idiot" bickering and go a step further.
 

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by jaymz
And Bush didn't bash Kerry? Christ what a moroon.
First off I never said that Bush didnt bash Kerry. Heck I bash Kerry every time I speak. But thats another topic. lol

Is Kerry the commander and chief leading our country? I think not. He will never be. The aimless bashing that Kerry did of our country and Commander only succeeded to seperate us. That is no more evident than in your response jaymz. I never personally threw any kind of insult at what yo said, even though I believe you are wrong. For one that has nothing to do with the discussion, and I really dont even know you.

It is very evident the differences between Republicans and Democrats. Although I am not a Republican myself, I constantly feel the hatred of the left because I associate myself with a candidate (and once again President) that the left sincerely hate! The hate transfers from candidate to supporter. This is in no way condusive of unity.

Bush has much to do to bring theis country back together again; it is closely devided (not as close as the left hoped though). Bush is not the only one that has to make an attempt to seperate party, each and every one of us need to do this as well. Why devide when we can conquer. We can become a stronger country, but we have to do it together.

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:33 PM
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triple??? weird forum glitch
 

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:37 PM
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Kerry has created no rift...

As you'll recall, the race was just as tight, no- it was tighter in 2000 that it was yesterday.

Kerry created a rift? Hardly- the rift is there because half the country sees Mr. Bush for what he is, and the other half sees him for what he says he is.
 
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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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Take it easy on the send button Bullitt!

I honestly do not believe that John Kerry is the root of all evils no different then Debuya. But the 'hatred' of Bush from the left side that you speak of seems (to me) to be equally matched by the hatred of the left side by the right. (You don't have to look much further then the postings on this site as of late for proof.) If half of the country hates the other half, and has no respect or understanding of the other side's opinion, perhaps the terrorist have already accomplished their goal, and we have in effect already lost, and don't even know it! This is precisely what we must find a way to get past.
 

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Old Nov 3, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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Hardly- the rift is there because half the country sees Mr. Bush for what he is, and the other half sees him for what he says he is.
More like half believes in what he is doing and half that doesn't believe.


As for Kerry creating a rift ...

The media has split this country more then Kerry has. Bush has split this country more then Kerry has. Kerry was just man to look to for a new change.
 
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