I can save you the time of visiting Kerry’s website about his plans. It basically goes like this:

”I have a plan to make everybody feel happy, and to do so I am going to raise taxes on every man, women and working child I can find, expect a tax increase of 15% - 25%”

I have a plan….

Kerry has nothing but BS, he has NO plan, he has NO vision, and he does not have any courage to defend America like a man because he wants to pass a “Global test” before he does anything…

Kerry has proven what he thinks of America and it’s military some 20 years ago, he is a timid coward little man…

 

Bush did a lot better last night than in the first debate. I think he clearly had the edge over Kerry last night. Kerry is a slick debater; so, he will always get style points. Without substance or credibility, he's hard to accept at his word. Of course, I think that if he got down on his knees and conceded defeat, some of the guys on this board would declare him the winner and come up with some way to call it a brilliant strategey to put GW off his game... or something.

 

Monday morning quarter backing is easy.

If I am given the chance to stand by and watch you do ANYTHING - THen critique it after - I can make you look like an idiot. After the fact anyone can second guess. Kerry's record speaks for itself. He has no original plan - He is going to do Bushs plan better ... Thats innovative. His running mate has missed so many votes its not even funny.

The other thing that pisses me off is that in the debate EVERYTHING is the presidents responsibility. Loss of jobs is supposed to be a direct result of the presidents action or inaction. Koreas nuclear progress is also his fault. Economic turn down is also his fault. Give me a break.

These issues are NOT that simple

Doug

 

"I own a timber company"??

HAHA..."thats news to me"

(short pause)

*smirking* "Need some wood"?



That had me rolling in my chair. I love Bush, hes the man!

 

What's funny is Bush DOES have stakes in a timber company.


"Although Bush expressed surprise at Kerry's assertion that the president earned $84 from his investment in a timber company and, thus, qualified as a small business — "I own a timber company? That's news to me. Need some wood?" — the Web site www.factcheck.org backed up Kerry's assertion.

"President Bush himself would have qualified as a 'small business owner' under the Republican definition, based on his 2001 federal income tax returns," the Web site's analysis said. "He reported $84 of business income from his part ownership of a timber-growing enterprise.

 

Sounds more like a 'micro' business.

 

I think that debate last night would have been much better had they let the crowd ask away instead of pre-determined questions and if they gave the crowd a BS button.

Everytime Kerry mention the top 1% getting money back I was just waiting for someone to shout out That's because they pay the most.

I only got watch the first half last night, but I'm still curious, what exactly was Kerry's environmental stance? I saw him bash Bush's stance, but must have missed or went out before he said his was.


I'm trying to be objective and give Kerry a shot in that he could do a better job, but the man just has no substance.

 

"and if they gave the crowd a BS button."

Heh heh.. If they has a BS Buzzer it would NEVER go off!

We have to remember it's Politics. 99% of it's BS...

 

We all know Kerry is the Monday quarterback on the Iraqi war.

I would like to know how we would know for sure there wasn't WMDs if we didn't go in there. Maybe we should have just waited until he attacked Isreal or US.

I like how he has plans but no details. Rhetorical BS

I don't like how he calls our men and women in uniform "kids" like they were boy scouts dieing for no reason. No respect for the ones doing their jobs.

He tries to make it sound like we just dropped troops in harms way with no thought. Again BS. He voted to go to war with the proposed plan (oops that word again). Only 1 person voted against it.

I know who I am voting for in this election, not Kerry.

There a lot of undecided voters because of the WMDs or lack there of. Again how would know for sure if we didn't go there? I'm not making excuses for Bush. You should take into account what you knew at the time we went in. No one likes war but we're there and as a bonus we are fighting most of the terrorists out of our country. To me that alone speaks volumes. This is a difficult decision to make on who to vote for. Just don't vote out of anger. Vote for what's best for you and your family.

 

One man alone, President or not can not declare war, be responsible for the cost of heath care, or create / lose jobs.

Has anyone heard of Congress??!

 

Kerry does indeed have a plan but until we here from Europe in general we won’t know what Kerry’s plan is. President Bush hit the nail on the head when he “rightly” pointed out Kerry likes to be popular and will do what ever makes him popular in Europe regardless if it is the right or wrong thing for America. Kerry made that point in the first debate ”We need to pass a global test” Kerry’s answer is to let the UN decide for us what is best to do.

This is the same UN that has been badly tarnished due to its corruption in the Iraq oil for food program in where France, Germany and maybe Russia were in on the take making BILLIONS of dollars protecting Saddam and trying to help get sanctions lifted so Saddam could start up his WMD program once again. That was in the report the liberals like to talk about over and over…

Problem is what the liberals have to say is worthless, the report that states there is no WMD’s in Iraq is from the very same people that told us there WERE WMD’s in Iraq but that President Bush lied to America.

So the liberals, like Kerry and company, have no creditability. Kerry has never had any creditability because he is always on BOTH sides of every issue it just depends what Europe is feeling at any given moment as to what side of an issue Kerry will stand on.

Kerry could debate himself for days and not run out of material to argue about…

 

Excellent point and Kerry was there to give authorization for WAR with Iraq, Kerry was there to help send jobs overseas with his 20 plus years of tax hikes and regulations, and Kerry was there for 20 plus years whining about health care and NEVER did anything to fix it, neither did Clinton for 8 years. They kept it as a campaign slogan which shows what the liberals think of everyday Americans, political bait…

 

HAHAHA, shub doesn't scowl and the shrubetts think thats a victory.

Shrub lied like a rug, and spork, spurt, spert whichever is appropriate, backs it up like the obedient little brown shirt that he is.
Rose colored glasses anyone?

Kerry, simply related his plans, because some folks apparently (here especially) don't understand compound words.
And still, there is non recognition of Kerrys plans, they act like he's never said them.
Maybe drawings or a coloring book is needed.

Shrub looked like a turtle to me
and Kerry looked like Stan Laurel.

 

Yes he did, he related ok:

”I have a plan…”

“We need to pass the global test before we act in our self interest”

“We need to do as the UN and Europe dictate”

“I am going to soak you like never before in tax increases”

“I will try to move as many jobs overseas as possible”

“I will try to eliminate as many jobs as possible that were made possible by small business”

“I will institute Hillary care so we can be just like Canada”

“I will send our troops around the world, after we pass the global test and the UN approves it with NO weapons but clubs so we can fund our social programs”

I think we know enough about Kerry’s plans …

 

my we're sooo impatient... let's see, let's turn a regime like Iraq into a full democracy in...mmmm...let's say, a little over a year? K?

IT'S BEEN JUST BARELY OVER A YEAR. YOU CANNOT EXPECT TO SIMPLY UP AND CHANGE IN ENTIRE COUNTRY IN A YEAR.

Bush said waaaaaaaay back in '01 that it wasn't goning to be easy, it was going to take a lot of time work and effort, basically, a really long haul. Whereas Kerry would have probably promised it would all be over in two years and all the troops would come home...

I love the way some people whine about how Iraq is such mess..uggh, I've argued this point time and time again, i swear i should just cut and paste from other arguments. you either see it or you don't. Period.

the debate last night was no a tie. Bush was a wall kerry couldn't even chip, if you can't see that, you're just blind out of either stupidity, ingornorance, of flat out misinformation...