Stump pulling?
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jpdadeo: what a GREAT video!!! I kept watching waiting for something to happen (I couldn't see where they attached the hook). Holy crap, that just sucks!
hillbillyFX4: 4x2's do not come with tow hooks on the front. Let's hope that nobody attempts to tow with a rope attached to the rear in reverse!
hillbillyFX4: 4x2's do not come with tow hooks on the front. Let's hope that nobody attempts to tow with a rope attached to the rear in reverse!
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Originally posted by deep6blue
hillbillyFX4: 4x2's do not come with tow hooks on the front. Let's hope that nobody attempts to tow with a rope attached to the rear in reverse!
hillbillyFX4: 4x2's do not come with tow hooks on the front. Let's hope that nobody attempts to tow with a rope attached to the rear in reverse!
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You shouldn't ever pull from the front. The transmission isn't desinged to have that much stress put on it while in the reverse gear. Couple that with the fact that it's a 2 wheel drive truck we're talking about, the back tires would just spin. Using one tow hook on the front, and pulling backwards, once those tires break loose, it's going to cause the back of the truck to swing to one side.
What part of the tranny is pulling in reverse hard on?
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The R2 5 speed transmission has a first gear ratio of 3.90:1 vs. 3.41:1 reverse
The 4R70W has a first gear ratio of 2.84:1 vs 2.33:1 reverse.
The 4R100 has a first gear ratio of 2.71:1 vs 2.18:1 reverse.
How exactly do you have more power in reverse than in first gear?
I don't have any technical facts as to why the tranny isn't built to handle the torque strain in the reverse gear, just an idea in my head. Doesn't seem to me that the designers meant to have that much strain on the reverse gear. Kind of like reverse cut gears, I guess, but no statistics to prove it.
The 4R70W has a first gear ratio of 2.84:1 vs 2.33:1 reverse.
The 4R100 has a first gear ratio of 2.71:1 vs 2.18:1 reverse.
How exactly do you have more power in reverse than in first gear?
I don't have any technical facts as to why the tranny isn't built to handle the torque strain in the reverse gear, just an idea in my head. Doesn't seem to me that the designers meant to have that much strain on the reverse gear. Kind of like reverse cut gears, I guess, but no statistics to prove it.
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My thinking was...
A. You have factory heavy duty tow hooks in the front attached to the frame.
B. In 4x4 LOW, you have very low gearing, in reverse OR drive/forward gears. So to me, this would seem to be super easy to yank out shrubs in forward or reverse in 4x4 LOW (wouldn't try pulling from front even with tow hooks on a 4x2, for obvious reasons).
C. If you're pulling so hard on stumps that you're putting so much stress on your truck you become worried about it....then you shouldn't be pulling stumps with a truck...get a tractor or do it the old fashioned way (dig them out by hand, since we're talking about shrubs here).
I don't think the manufacturer would have put tow hooks on the front if they didn't want us using them. I think the key is to use some common sense when pulling from the front OR rear.
A. You have factory heavy duty tow hooks in the front attached to the frame.
B. In 4x4 LOW, you have very low gearing, in reverse OR drive/forward gears. So to me, this would seem to be super easy to yank out shrubs in forward or reverse in 4x4 LOW (wouldn't try pulling from front even with tow hooks on a 4x2, for obvious reasons).
C. If you're pulling so hard on stumps that you're putting so much stress on your truck you become worried about it....then you shouldn't be pulling stumps with a truck...get a tractor or do it the old fashioned way (dig them out by hand, since we're talking about shrubs here).
I don't think the manufacturer would have put tow hooks on the front if they didn't want us using them. I think the key is to use some common sense when pulling from the front OR rear.
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What’s the big deal? You can pull stumps out with a car if that all you got to work with. I know your truck is very capable of pulling stumps without damaging it. Just hook up a chain to the stump and tighten it up. Dig around it a little and ax some of the roots. Pull it tight again, dig, and ax again. It not going to take a tank to pull a stump out if you do it right.
You should use a chain, not a strap, rope or cable because when a chain breaks it falls in place because the spaces in-between the chain links dissipate the energy. Whereas a strap, rope or cable when they break could possibly take your head off.
You should use a chain, not a strap, rope or cable because when a chain breaks it falls in place because the spaces in-between the chain links dissipate the energy. Whereas a strap, rope or cable when they break could possibly take your head off.
