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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 06:27 PM
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The Worm Turns: Again

http://www.drudgereport.com/rckm.htm What a tangled web we weave when we deceive. :o
 
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Old Apr 25, 2004 | 06:38 PM
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When I heard about this before he stated they were someone elses medals. (FLIP) Now he says they were his.(FLOP)

Thats ok, his numbers have been dropping in the poles and rescent poles show most american think he flops on alot of issues.

Burt, time to reach out and biecth slap him again.

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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:00 PM
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The good thing about a flip-flopper is, at least he's right half the time.

I still have my medal in a box somewhere but, I wouldn't hestitate to chuck it at somebody if they pissed me off.

Is this at all relevant to the November election?
People who favor Kerry will say it's irrelevant.
People who favor Bush will feel reassurance in their decision.

That leaves the undecided. How does this act of 33 years ago, half a lifetime ago, play for an undecided voter in 2004 choosing a President for the next four years?

Just wondering how a reasonable undecided voter views this information without the predisposed contemptuous hate from the Right or Left.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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Just wondering how a reasonable undecided voter views this information without the predisposed contemptuous hate from the Right or Left.
Cant help ya there, I am all ready tainted with the predisposed contemtuous hate for the left.


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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by Raoul
The good thing about a flip-flopper is, at least he's right half the time.

I still have my medal in a box somewhere but, I wouldn't hestitate to chuck it at somebody if they pissed me off.

Is this at all relevant to the November election?
People who favor Kerry will say it's irrelevant.
People who favor Bush will feel reassurance in their decision.

That leaves the undecided. How does this act of 33 years ago, half a lifetime ago, play for an undecided voter in 2004 choosing a President for the next four years?

Just wondering how a reasonable undecided voter views this information without the predisposed contemptuous hate from the Right or Left.
To my good friend I would say YES this is very relevant for the November elections. It would be irrelevant had this been his only “flip-flop” when it comes to national security and foreign policy. However what he did 33 years ago and what he has done currently is to show he has NO coherent standing when it comes to foreign policy and national security.

The latest example was:

”I voted for the $87 billion to support our troops BEFORE I voted NO to the $87 billion and take support AWAY from our troops…”

It is one thing to “flip-flop” like Flipper the dolphin on domestic issues like wants to RAISE the cost of fuel and then doesn’t want to raise the cost of fuel etc, you get the picture.

However it is VERY important that we have someone in the White House that has a coherent stand on national security and foreign policies as we do with President Bush. We seen what happens when we put Flipper in office like with Clinton, he made America VERY weak and the reason for what is going on today. We don’t need a repeat of Flipper in office with Kerry…
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 01:59 PM
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If Kerry REALLY wants a chance at being President he will let go of the Liberal playbook (rewritten by Clinton) and do away with POLL’S. He needs to get out there and TELL everybody what HE really thinks REGARDLESS of what the pollsters tell him to say.

That is why he “flip-flops” so much. One day the general population wants one thing and then the next day they want something else. Like a parent with their children they have to GUIDE their children and LEAD by example.

Kerry needs to act like a grown-up a real live adult and stop acting like a child going off in every direction then and ONLY then will he have a “slight” chance of being President in 2008…
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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...However it is VERY important that we have someone in the White House that has a coherent stand on national security and foreign policies as we do with President Bush...
I voted for Bush in 2000 because I thought Bush would be the President. Instead we got the three amigos, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Ashcroft.

I think it's time we throw the imbeciles out and replace them with a whole new set of imbeciles.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 02:15 PM
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I think it's time we throw the imbeciles out and replace them with a whole new set of imbeciles.
Your check bounced so I can’t do it for this year’s election. However if you can write me a check that won’t bounce for 2008 election I will give it a shot…
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 03:31 PM
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Is this at all relevant to the November election
Yes.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:01 PM
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I already know it matters to you, Frank.
Is this at all relevant to the November election?
People who favor Kerry will say it's irrelevant.
People who favor Bush will feel reassurance in their decision.
The gist of my post was, does it matter to those who don't have a closed mind one way or the other.
I am not an 'undecided' on this election but, for me in the past the negativity always worked against accuser and helped charged if the accusation was not germane to the issues.

I was implying that this actually works against Bush just as the reports on Bushs' Air National Guard record work against Kerry, for those critical undecided votes each side desperately seeks.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:18 PM
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The gist of my post was, does it matter to those who don't have a closed mind one way or the other
Who says I or anyone has a closed mind? I am NOT a Republican. I consider all candidates. I just usually end up voting Republican. It's a shame the Democratic party cannot get behind a decent man like Lieberman.

I believe all Americans are entitled to ALL of the facts about candidates. Their past, present and what they want in the future. Kerry says he served proudly, and that's fine. But what he says and what 'actually' happened are coming into question now.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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'closed mind' was an unfortunate choice of words.

"Already decided", would have been better.

The links you have posted in the past did not lead me to believe you were one of the 'undecided'.

I am a Republican who has 'already decided' to vote for Kerry.
 
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Old Apr 26, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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"It's a shame the Democratic party cannot get behind a decent man like Lieberman."

Frank S you nailed it right on the head. I really respect Joe Lieberman, imagine actually taking responsibility for voting for something unpopular, but the Democrats have been too co opted by the extreme left to put him up for election (See republicans and John McCain in 2000 for an example the other way). They might have gotten the vote of this registered republican if they hadn't come up with that POS rat John Kerry. I can't vote for GWB again but I would rather cut my arm off than pull the lever for John Kerry, I guess i'll just throw my vote away...
 
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