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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Just a quick question - what do YOU think your punishment should be if you happen to hit & kill that 4 yr old kid that runs out between the parked cars in the center of town while you're driving 45 mph... ? By going 45 mph through the center of town, you're already willing to purposely take a life... regardless of whether you do or not.... yet you only want to pay a ticket? And this heralded as a "profound" statement?
You're absolutely correct Mike, all should lose their lives, by all, I mean the driver of the car that was speeding, and the parents of the 4 year old that let him run loose in traffic.

Oh, and what about that traffic cop that could have put a bullet in one of the tires and stopped the car before it hit the child. Yeah, him too!!!

Oh, but what if he'd missed and hit and killed a bystander with the stray bullet..........
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 07:16 PM
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:06 PM
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you're absolutely correct serotta.. that's EXACTLY what I wrote and meant.... (double rolleyes for that one! ) WHERE did you come up with THAT interpretation???? I'm still trying to figure out where you came up that I wrote/intended/implied everyone should die....???

Just so I get this straight serotta... if one willingly and purposely speeds through the center of town (after all, YOU control the accelerator) and a 4 yr old runs out in between the cars and you hit them, your position is that the driver of the speeding car should just not whine when he gets pulled over or make up excuses and just pay the speeding fine...(as momalle clearly states)... ???? After all, if I'm willing to purposely take another's life (through my own conscious dis-obedience of speeding laws), I should be willing to take my own....(as long as it's not more than a speeding fine???).. somehow that statement doesn't sound so grandiose when put into perspective....

I'd love to see you explain your logic to the parents of that 4 year old who ran out of their grasp and is now lying in the gutter......
To answer your first comment, serotta's and your second, laws should be put into place and enforced or not made at all. In Massachusetts, if you are travelling at double the posted speed or greater, it's a criminal offense and arrestable. If the death penalty were in place, and I killed someone due to negligence while commiting a criminal activity, yes, your damned right I should be subject to that death penalty. But we also have a law that states if you have an unregistered hand gun while commiting any crime, you will have a one year sentence added to whatever you receive. Nobody has served this, it always get's plea=bargained out in the interest of focusing on the main crime. We also have a law that says all children under 12 must wear a helmet while riding a bike, there is no penalty for it! What's the point? As far as the cop that could have put a bullet in my tire and the parents, you're just being ridiculous. I didn't say you should TAKE your own life, but if you are going to commit a crime, you should be willing to pay the penalty. There is a big difference between a person with 18 DUI conictions 9yes I've seen that too many times) and someone speeding (albeit 45 in a 30 zone is way too fast).
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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So you think it's saving us Tax payers money to Fry these guys? Think again, it's costs Millions of dollars to get someone executed...
Found guilty, sentenced, within a week a gone (preferably a bullet since it's cheapest). Carrying out the death penalty should not be expensive.




As for the death penalty being a deterant, novel idea but it's a thin line to tread. If we give out the death penalty more often for murders, and even second offense DUI as stated, it may deter some, but not enough put the 'deterant argument' high on list of things that support the death penalty. If it deters 1 or 20 or hundres of people thats great.

But it will not deter the majority. In order for the death penalty to be an effective deterant to the majory, well just look at Saddam's ruling over the years. We don't want to become him.




MikeF150 - interesting question. My girlfriend and her mom witnessed something like that years ago. A guy was driving through a neighborhood and a kid ran out between 2 cars and got hit, luckily he (child) survived. Guy was doing the speedlimit, if he was going slower it may not have happened, if he was going faster it may have killed the child or been ahead of him. The kids mother was extremely pissed at the guy, of course she was in the house not paying attention. There are more details, but it's irrelevent.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 10:36 PM
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... There is a big difference between a person with 18 DUI conictions 9yes I've seen that too many times) ...
Agh, you posted that while I was still typing.

Last month we had a high school kid with a bright future get t-boned by a drunk driver, turns out that was guys 13th or 16th DUI.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 11:04 PM
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Agh, you posted that while I was still typing.

Last month we had a high school kid with a bright future get t-boned by a drunk driver, turns out that was guys 13th or 16th DUI.
Sorry about that chief!

Detterent or not, they should no longer be a burden on those of us carrying our own weight and behaving responsably. Whether they are a menace or a cost, they give up the right to be a burden. I do agree we would have to be very careful, but a 13th offense DUI, there's NO excuse, at all.
 
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Old Apr 23, 2004 | 11:11 PM
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I didn't mean to cause such a "stink". Just my way to show each situation deserves it's own consequences. I purposely took everything to the extreme. "What if" games are fun to debate, but once you put each state law, and 12 people in a room with facts and prejudices, anything can happen and does.
I think we all sit on the same side of the fence on this one. To paraphrase Barretta, "If you can't do the time, don't do the crime."
 
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Old Apr 24, 2004 | 06:38 AM
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