with this statement you have proven my point.

 

Who are you really? Who's that hiding behind a noobie screen name?

 

Would you mind elaborating on your broad statement. If you did yourself a favor and looked in the 2004 F150 forum you will clearly see, that in spite of your opinion of us Bush supporters all being fools, a very large portion of us are Professionals in Scientific fields. We have no problems with LOGIC or advanced math, thus in order to satisfy the scientific thought process that us FOOLS use, why not qualify your own foolish statement so we dont consider you a fool (Is perhaps too late). . .

 

And what point would that be? That your clueless or do not have any logic to your thought process thus you rely on others to do your thinking?

Sad, very sad, liberals have you running one liners to mask over your own inability to think…

Don’t worry, there are many others like me who are capable of thinking, using logic and properly thinking out solutions rather then running one liners and with that we will insure that those like you have nothing to worry about and won’t be taken advantage of…

 

You guys don't even know what Kerry's Tax plan is.... No one does. He hasn't released it yet.

So far he's hinting that he just wants to NOT make the tax cuts permanent, at least until we get this Deficit under control. Yea, Deficit. Something you won't hear many Republicans talk about. Are you guys OK with a Trillion dollar deficit? Because it's not too far away, and Bush is blatantly LIEING about his numbers and not even taking the huge demographic about to retire in the next 10 years. Very Deceitful. Kerry's just being responsible and this is what we get.

200 billion on this war with Iraq. It's time to pay, Rich or poor. Don't blame the Dems for it. You charge money on the Credit Card, you eventually have to pay it back.

Seriously though. We've been providing: links, Statistics, Raw numbers, Math examples, etc. to back our statements. I have yet to see ANY of that other than quotes from Rush Limbaughs Home page.

Oh yea, new Record Trade deficit this week. Cool....

XLT, Didn't we just go through how LITTLE of our tax dollars actually go towards helping the poor anyway. Yea it was bad in the 80's until Clinton ran through his welfare reform. Get over it guys. That was 20 years ago. And a Dem fixed the problem.

 

I do enjoy tax cuts but see no way they will be permanent. There's no way congress will pass it again. Deficits are not just paper work. They show problems and weekness in a country. We owe tens of billions of dollars to over ten different countries. We have to pay them back. We have a terror war to fight and have to win. There's no way to do everything and not pay. I don't have a solution, but do not see anyway that the tax cuts will continue.

 

Kerry from my understand is going to spend somewhere in the neighborhood of 900 Billion on “his” programs, medical for all, more money for education (as if they need more money to throw away) and a few other things he has mentioned.

In any regards if he is going to “spend” 900 Billion dollars on new programs where does that money come from? TAX HIKES for ALL that’s where. It doesn’t take anybody with a major degree to figure out if your going to spend more money you have to have it first to spend it.

Democrats NEVER ask ”How are we going to afford this new program?” however when it comes to tax cuts they always ask “How are we going to afford tax cuts?” absolutely pathetic if you ask me. They never ask me if I can afford their new programs, but yet tell me I don’t get a tax cut because they can’t afford it.

Well here is the thing, it DON’T matter if they can afford to give me a tax cut because it is NOT their money and it is NOT coming out of their pockets. Democrats have ALWAYS had it backwards when it comes to questioning the affordability of something. There is NEVER a reason to ask if we can afford a tax cut, but there should ALWAYS be the question can we afford a new social program.

Yes, we can have tax cuts and get out of debt at the same time it is called CUTTING spending on non-essential programs. Defense and intelligence are NOT non-essential but just about all the other programs are therefore you simple go and cut them to bring the budget into balance.

Tax hikes NEVER get us out of debt and they NEVER bring down the deficit ONLY cutting spending will do that. As a matter of fact it has been proven time and time again that tax CUTS actually bring more money into the federal coffers. The trick however is to NOT spend anymore money then you already are, problem is, be it democrat or republican is they see ALL this EXTRA money coming in and rather then pay their credit cards down they buy new shinny things.

You want to reduce the deficit, balance the budget AND make the working people happy then it is very simple TAX CUTS and REDUCE spending or spending cuts. Works every single time it is tried…



So, if Kerry is not going to screw all of us that work with TAX HIKES then how will your boy pay for his 900 Billion dollar programs he is promising?

 

This is what I learned in grade school. Democrats typically favor large governments, more programs and federally funded things. Republicans prefer fewer programs, but they do like to spend a lot of money on military/defense.

The republicans like tax cuts, but overall spending goes up. No wonder why we have budget deficits. Democrats at least admitt that the gov't needs more tax money to pay for its programs, but that is unpopular with citizens to raise taxes.

My opinion: There are many other economic factors that take priority over tax rate hikes than adding new programs IMHO. I favor smaller government, but more taxes. Sure, I loved the removal of marriage penalty tax last year, but I'd rather have a balanced government budget. So, take my tax money, but don't buy more programs. Pay off what we already bought over the last 70 years.

 

if you are so logical and bright why the hell would you ever vote for bush.

 

Can you at least throw in some *tin foil hat conspiracy theories* and make your comments interesting?

If thats to hard, then how about capatilization and punctuation?

 

900 Billion. Now This is a Bush "projected" amount over the Next TEN years... That's with a "New" Health Care system in place that somehow only Bush knows about, but the Democrats don't.

Doesn't this upset you that Bush can just make up numbers like these? That he's trying to deceive you with figures projected out for 10 years??? That they're under investigation now for lying about the cost of this "drug benefit" and they may have to re-vote on the issue..... That Bush's budget's don't even include another 80 billion we're going to need for Iraq as well as the extra demand we KNOW we're going to have on Social security in the next 5-10 years.

You guys are ok being lied and deceived to like this on a Regular basis...? Iraq was just "bad intelligence". Yea right...

For the record, Kerry wants to just Roll back the future tax cuts and hopefully CUT middle to middle upper class taxes once the deficit is under control.

 

Yet again, you fail to address the issue, come on man, at least try to give some credence to liberalism, so typical...

Edited because I originally quoted the wrong person...

 

Yeah, that'll happen.

 

 

LMAO, man you got it bad, real bad, they did a great job with you on the machine...

Your getting sleepy, very sleepy...