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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by runnert
How is your life worst off since Clinton left office.
-Terrorists killed 3,000 Americans on 9/11
-My heath insurance went up $200.00 per month
-My president butchers my beloved language to such an extend that I feel ill listening
-John Ashcroft is reading my e-mail
-**** Cheney is using my tax dollars to pad his Halliburten kickbacks

There was no need to even have this sort of conversation during Clinton. Under Clinton, the biggest scandal was that our president was having sex with an intern. Now we have a president that plenty of Americans belief may have actually lied in order to send our soldiers to war.

No, I do not see anything that suggests I am better of now than I was 4 years ago.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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Clinton's biggest scandel is that he refused Osama when he had the chance. Then not going after the terrorists in 1993. Who cares about a stupid intern. Clinton gave our nuclear secrets to China and Korea. I can go on.

How has Bush damaged our country? The only thing you can quote are rumors from the internet...and your Bush-bashing. And let me also tell you something about his approval rating. I unfortunately cannot research the sources right now being at work, but I pretty sure this is accurate: Clinton, when he ran against Dole in the winter before the election was at 52%. Same with Bush 1 and Reagan during his re-election. I cannot say 100% that Bush will be re-elected. I do hope he is. The only way Kerry will be elected is if he convinces the 20% undecided via his hate Bush campagn...that is all he has to stand on. Do you deny that we are safer today then we ever have been? Whether our email is being read - there is no proof of this. I don't think there is a legal right for any email to be randomly read by the government. I think there has to be some suspicion for grounds for this, but I am not sure.

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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 11:21 AM
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Here's a red flag for you...N. Korea

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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 12:11 PM
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Originally posted by AjRagno
Under Clinton, the biggest scandal was that our president was having sex with an intern
You from France or some other God forbidden country…

Clinton scandals include a few listed below:

Let North Korea do as they please in developing their nuke program.

Gave China much needed information to move their nuke program ahead by 20+ years.

Let the terrorist have free will and let them attack at will America target and America interest with little to no response in return for those attacks.

Because of the lack of attention to the international terrorist crises could be partly responsible for the 9/11 attacks on America, which killed over 3,000 innocent civilians.

Was responsible for the Oklahoma federal building bombing (if you want to directly blame Bush for 9/11)

Let Osama walk free on 2 or 3 different times.

Handed us with a bow the Clinton recession…



That’s just a few of the scandals during the Clinton administration and to top it off Clinton was NEVER elected to office with higher numbers then president Bush was elected with. Clinton got into office with ONLY 43% of the vote, take about a “selected” President…


You liberals need to mellow out, just because things are brighter for America today, just because there is good news in America today you people get so pissy and whinny. It still holds true:

A Good day for America is a bad day for liberals
Good news for America is bad news for liberals…

 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 01:38 PM
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So which one of you Kerry supporters has a reason why taxes should only be raised for tax payers who earn more than 200K a year. , and not proportionately through all tax payers.

class warfare ?..."tax the rich they can afford it"....well they earned it ! while you smoked pot and partied instead of going to college......now your making 45K a year and "saying ya tax those 200K earners"


most(not all) tax payers who make 200K a year have busted thier a*ses for many years improving their education or working 16hrs a day to build a business so you democrates can kick back play X-Box games and look for a hand out because your to lazy to get of the sofa and work or go to college
Now most democrates who make over 200K are against the tax hike ....go figure.
 

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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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The Labor Department reported the economy added just 21,000 positions in February and also downgraded job gains for January from 112,000 to 97,000. Democrats consistently note that more than 2.2 million payroll jobs have been lost during the Bush administration, the worst job-creation record of any president since Herbert Hoover.

In a statement, Kerry noted recent criticism of him from Vice President **** Cheney, saying, “This week, **** Cheney said that if America had my kind of tax policies instead of George Bush’s policies that we ’would not have had the kind of job growth that we’ve had.’ Mr. Vice President, you better believe it.”

The Bush campaign viewed the additional jobs as a positive sign for the president’s policies. “Today’s job report demonstrates the importance of having a president in the White House who is committed to a vigorous job creation agenda of lower taxes, lower health care costs and lower energy costs,” campaign spokesman Terry Holt said in a statement.

That last paragraph is the best. Vigorous Job growth. 21,000 ?? The unemployment rate hasn't changed.

Lower taxes? Because of his cuts to the states Ohio had a Sales tax increase and because of his cuts to Education I just had to pass a school levy costing me $600.00 a year. Yea, Big tax breaks.

Lower Health care costs? We all know the answer to that one.

Lower energy??? Have you seen the price of gas lately. Natural gas? And they're saying Gas is going to go up even MORE and it's not even Spring yet. We're screwed..

Bush is a Joke!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 03:15 PM
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So your saying that Kerry would not add on to the Clinton recession and 2 + million jobs lost due to the Clinton recession?

If you truly care about the children you will NOT vote for Kerry. A vote for Kerry = taking the food out of the children’s mouths, taking the clothes of the children’s backs, if you care about the children you will not only send Kerry packing but send a message load and clear that America does NOT need the BIGGEST SPENDING liberal, a LONG TIME Washington insider and the biggest flip flop on policy every…

The man just don’t know what he wants to do nor where he stands on any issue because he is always for it one day and then against it the next day…
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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Anybody that thinks Kerry will make it better needs to look at Massachusetts. Broke, cut education funding, cut fire department funding, cut public works etc. MA is screwed up and Kerry and most of MA politicians have done nothing to fix it. Do you want the whole country to be like MA?
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 04:59 PM
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It seems that states that have Dems running the show are in the worst shape. Mass...Cal...Whats with that? And you want this guy as your next president...what idiots.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 05:28 PM
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Like Texas, worst education in the nation, top ranking in polution, Very top ranking with Crime.

XLT, you still can't even tell me what Bush's policy with North Korea is. Oh yea... We don't have one. Just close our eyes and hope it goes away.

I don't know what nation you guys live in but, We're BROKE, We're 1/2 trillion in the hole. Bush CUT education. That's why 2/3 of our schools need Tax levy's to keep them going. Bush is a BIG spender. Trips to the Moon,colonies on the moon, Mars, million dollar museums in vegas, $725,000 for Philadelphia's Please Touch Museum, and $360,000 for "Citrus Waste Utilization" in Winter Haven, Florida, plus ANOTHER 9,000 items like this...

I'm for low taxes, but how can you propose MORE tax cuts when we're this much in debt. Obviously the "Reaganomics" theory isn't working.... Even Reagan didn't run up a Deficit THIS high.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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Originally posted by BHibbs
Bush CUT education. That's why 2/3 of our schools need Tax levy's to keep them going. Bush is a BIG spender
Man you are so far from lost it is unbelievable. Do you know who WROTE the education bill? Kennedy wrote the education bill the BIGGEST increase in school spending in years.

President Bush simply signed the bill, so if schools are so screwed up your having to pay more money on top of the MASS amount of money they now get then DON’T blame President Bush, blame the democrats that wrote the bill and dictated how and where the money should go, which more then likely is in their buddies pockets…
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 06:55 PM
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You're on some Bad crack XLT

In the budget draft delivered to Congress today, the Bush Administration cut hundreds of millions of dollars in public school funding in order to pay for its new, private school voucher plan. Republicans have always asserted that their private voucher plan would not come at the expense of public school programs.

“Once again, the Bush Administration has proved that maintaining its commitment to the conservative Republican agenda is more important than keeping its promise to American children,” said Miller. “President Bush’s 2004 budget fails to pay for critical provisions of the No Child Left Behind Act - the cornerstone education reform act.”

The Bush budget slashes funding for after-school programs by $400 million; that means that many programs will be shut down and thousands of children denied participation in programs that provide critical supervision and instruction. The Bush budget deeply cuts vocational education by $300 million, which is 25% of the entire program's budget at a time when young people need vocational skills to find good jobs. And it provides no increase for Pell grants, America’s premier higher education program for the nation’s neediest college students, or the crucial Head Start program.
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:05 PM
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You're on some Bad crack XLT
I don’t do drugs because I am not a liberal…

Originally posted by BHibbs
In the budget draft delivered to Congress today, the Bush Administration cut hundreds of millions of dollars in public school funding in order to pay for its new, private school voucher plan. Republicans have always asserted that their private voucher plan would not come at the expense of public school programs.
And if you were to do some math on that it indeed may be true. If you take one child out of school and for this example we will say that school gets $7,000 for that child then logic would tell you that school no longer needs that $7,000 for the child that is now going to private school.

Now, mind you the public school may still be making out because that child is not going to get $7,000 in the form of a voucher. Therefore, either the public school keeps what’s left OR the government saves money.


Therefore the question would be if you’re not going to Disneyland tomorrow why should you have to buy the ticket?


Kind of like you liberals and your fuzzy math…

So, again for an example because I don’t have all the numbers and they will be different from school district to school district, any way here is an example of how you people try to make a savings look like a CUT…

Public school gets $7,000 for one child
One child leaves public school and gets a school voucher worth $4,500

NOW

Public school gets the rest of the $7,000 - $4,500 = $2,500 (free money for school)

OR

Government saves $2,500 and there NEVER was a cut in funding since the school still gets $7,000 per child.

You guys with your fuzzy math make it look like there is a 36% cut ($2,500/$7,000) when there NEVER was a cut to begin with…
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:20 PM
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You tell em' 01! Right on!
 
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Old Mar 5, 2004 | 07:30 PM
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Yea, that system is obviously working. You and I know BOTH know the present state of our school systems. We all know they're cutting band, and football just to get by... Obviously your Theory isn't working. Reality speaks for itself. Like I said before, School budgets are public record. You go through one and tell me where they're going wrong. It's a shame a kid can't play football in school, because they can't afford it. I'm sure it's cheaper to have them running around on the streets, doing drugs, and turning to crime. It's not like they even have an after school program to go to either. Bush cut Them as well...

Not to mention Bush promised he wouldn't take any money away from the public schools while implimenting his "voucher" system.

Either way, it definitley contradicts you're previous spouting of how he signed in the "biggest education bill ever".... It's obvious you just make stuff up as you go along....

Not only is the kid in a ****ty school system in a poor area that they won't pass a school levy to buy new books and allow them to play football. You want to tax them %20 more on their income to make it "Fair". I don't know how you guys sleap at night..
 
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