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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:39 PM
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Kerry was at UT today

Yeah, he was at the university of Toledo, not to exciting. Only problem were that their wereto many law enforcement agencies around. (UT police, Sheriffs, TPF, Secret Service, etc.) Some of them were being real jerks to a couple students. Irrelevant I guess, but I notice those things. Seemed like an aweful small crowd. Jerry Springer's coming to campus in like a week or so, that should be more interesting!
 
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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The Jerry & Kerry show...
 
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 08:42 PM
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Re: Kerry was at UT today

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Yeah, he was at the university of Toledo, not to exciting. Only problem were that their wereto many law enforcement agencies around. (UT police, Sheriffs, TPF, Secret Service, etc.) Some of them were being real jerks to a couple students. Irrelevant I guess, but I notice those things. Seemed like an aweful small crowd. Jerry Springer's coming to campus in like a week or so, that should be more interesting!

Jerry Springer would have a better chance of beating Bush than Kerry does.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 03:26 AM
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And, Jerry's way cooler. Who ever heard of `Kerry-beads`?
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 07:55 AM
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Come on now. Aren't you all going to make Kerry our next president? The way the main stream media is playing it, he's got a full moving truck parked out side the white house, waiting for Bush to vacate.

I hear people complain about how bad things are with Bush as president. Then go ahead, vote Kerry in. What do you think his administration would do if terrorists flew planes into our buildings. You know something, I hope we don't have to find out!
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 08:27 AM
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I hear people complain about how bad things are with Bush as president. Then go ahead, vote Kerry in. What do you think his administration would do if terrorists flew planes into our buildings. You know something, I hope we don't have to find out!
Kerry, being the extreme liberal and wuss that he is would tell America that we need to ”understand” how the terrorist feel, that we need to ”feel their pain” and see if we can’t sit down and talk this thing out. He would say ”perhaps we do have more money and wealth then we deserve and should spread it out among these different terrorist groups so every one is equal” Or he simple may blame it on the nasty rich people for having all the wealth.

Of course Kerry is too stupid to understand that these terrorist that come after us are extremely rich, more so then the rich he would love to tax to death. You see Kerry and other liberals do NOT get it when it comes to defending ones self. Kerry and other liberals as kids use to give up their lunch money to the school bullies because they were too much of a wuss to stand up to them.

We don’t need a wuss in office at this time giving everything America has to terrorist bullies so they can go play with their other liberal friends on the play ground. Kerry needs to grab some Kleenex, wipes his little tears and grow up and become a man. Then maybe someday in the future, like 30 years from now come back and try again…
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 10:22 AM
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Come on now. Aren't you all going to make Kerry our next president?
Actually, around 1400 that day, there were just as many people gathered with "Bush/Cheney 04" sign as there were people to see Cheney.
President Bush was at Owens Community College a couple weeks ago (maybe 25 minutes from UT if that), and there were maybe 20-30 anit-Bush demonstrators TOPS. I was there and saw them, small group. Funny thing is though, when CNN showed them on TV, they only zoomed in on the crowd to crop the ends, and would get them at different angles like this, really made it look like their were 100 people protesting.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:06 AM
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Kerry on the issues:

Don't like Prez Bush's immigration policy? vote Kerry in and you get:

Immediate amnesty to illegals:
Earned Legalization
John Kerry supports a proposal that will allow undocumented immigrants to legalize their status if they have been in the United States for a certain amount of time, have been working, and can pass a background check. This makes sense for the economy, provides fairness to people in our communities who have worked hard and paid taxes, and will also allow us to strengthen our homeland security by bringing undocumented workers out of the shadows and into the light of greater accountability.

Supporting the DREAM Act
John Kerry supports legislation that would provide immigration relief to undocumented young people who have spent their formative years in the United States, who have graduated from high school here, and who can demonstrate good moral character. The DREAM Act repeals a law that prevents these promising young people from attending college in the United States.


Will raise taxes on the wealthiest americans...who are the wealthiest americans???

Provide Tax Relief to Middle Class Families
John Kerry has the courage to take on the Bush tax cuts for the wealthiest Americans. However, he believes that we should keep the middle class tax cuts that Democrats fought for in 2001 and 2003. Specifically, he wants to protect the increases in the child tax credit, the reduced marriage penalty and the new tax bracket that helps people save $350 on their first level of income. He strongly disagrees with Democrats who want to repeal these tax cuts because it would cost a typical middle-class family with two children an additional $2,000. These families are often already struggling with higher health care costs and higher state and local taxes. In fact, John Kerry wants to give more tax breaks to the middle class with new tax credits on health care and college tuition. These tax cuts are part of his plan to restore the economy and cut the budget deficit in half in four years.

The problem with his idea is that his wife's company "Heinz Corp." has moved outside the USA and employes more people than work inside the USA. I am not completely sure, but I believe Kerry supports NAFTA:

Encourage Manufacturers to Stay in the U.S. and to Create New Jobs
The Bush Administration has done nothing to end incentives that encourage manufacturers to move their jobs overseas. John Kerry believes that we should not only get rid of these incentives, but that we should give new tax breaks to companies that stay in the U.S. and create new jobs. He would:


Source:
http://www.johnkerry.com/issues/

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:07 AM
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"I hear people complain about how bad things are with Bush as president. Then go ahead, vote Kerry in. What do you think his administration would do if terrorists flew planes into our buildings. You know something, I hope we don't have to find out!"


I like how the extreme right and Rush Limbaughs are trying to portray Kerry as some Extreme Liberal. He shares the same views on Gay marriage as Cheney does, he voted For the Iraq war, he's a gun owner/hunter, and plans to Finish the job in Iraq the correct way by rebuilding our relations with other countries and having them foot some of the bill instead of using all the American's tax money.

Bush is definitely worried. He's already started a Negative Ad campaigne against this guy. I guess dirty politics got him into office. Stick with what you know.

Ok, Bush wants an open boarder with Mexico. Kerry wants to Secure our boarder. That's another thing. We've speet 200 Billion on "Homeland Security" and you can still Walk across our boarder into Texas and they're laying off firemen and Police officers in our cities. Anyway, Screening and background checks of those already here and Only if they're currently working. Wow, that sounds good, compared to amnesty for everyone currently here and open boarders with Mexico. What is Bush thinking?? Oh yea, cheap labor for his oil buddies to work on the rigs.
 

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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 11:46 AM
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Originally posted by BHibbs
I like how the extreme right and Rush Limbaughs are trying to portray Kerry as some Extreme Liberal. He shares the same views on Gay marriage as Cheney does, he voted For the Iraq war, he's a gun owner/hunter, and plans to Finish the job in Iraq the correct way by rebuilding our relations with other countries and having them foot some of the bill instead of using all the American's tax money.
Spoken like a true liberal…

Kerry never knows where he stands on an issue, actually Kerry votes as a follower, he can not lead. He voted for war in Iraq, then stated he did not agree with it, did not agree to going to war in Iraq (what the hell is he trying to say? Either he supports it or he don’t).

Kerry seems to think he can have it both ways, but you can’t blame him for that ALL followers like Kerry to Clinton think they can have it both ways because they do not truly lead, they wait and see what the “polls” tell them to say because they are followers, not leaders like President Reagan and President Bush.


Originally posted by BHibbs
Bush is definitely worried. He's already started a Negative Ad campaigne against this guy. I guess dirty politics got him into office. Stick with what you know.
Why is it you liberals call FACTS “negative advertisement? It is not a negative campaign it is simple facts that anybody with half a brain can go and see for themselves. You need to stop listening and reading all the myths your liberal leaders give you and actually use your own brain and seek the truth.

”The truth will set you free….”

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Ok, Bush wants an open boarder with Mexico. Kerry wants to Secure our boarder. That's another thing. We've speet 200 Billion on "Homeland Security" and you can still Walk across our boarder into Texas and they're laying off firemen and Police officers in our cities. Anyway, Screening and background checks of those already here and Only if they're currently working. Wow, that sounds good, compared to amnesty for everyone currently here and open boarders with Mexico. What is Bush thinking?? Oh yea, cheap labor for his oil buddies to work on the rigs.
Once again stop believing all the propaganda your liberal leaders are feeding you and use your own brain that God gave you and find out for yourself. Once you are able to accomplish that you will find that President Bush’s proposal is NOT to grant amnesty or to open the boarders with Mexico…

You can always tell liberals from independent thinkers, liberals do not have the ability to think for themselves and thus can never fully and logically explain why they feel the way they do because they don’t really have a clue why they think and feel the way they do they only know it’s what they read and were feed from their liberal leaders…

Liberals have no positive ideas and no solutions they just blame everybody else for all their problems or others problems. They have no personal responsibility and they usually do not have the courage to face reality and the facts as they truly are.

A vote for Kerry is a vote for a gutless coward that will put America at risk because first he is a follower and second he is a socialist liberal who believes social programs come first and foremost before protecting his own country…

That is not negative, that is the FACT and there is 20+ years of his record to back that up, he hates the military, he hates the intelligence agencies, he hates personal responsibility and he hates anyone with the free will to make something of themselves and to propel themselves forward…
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:31 PM
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It's the right wingers goal to Demonize "Liberals" and create them into tree hugging "followers". Just like Right wing conservatives blindly follow their religions, they blindly follow Rush, and the AM radio. They refuse to look at the stats and facts and instead look at some obscure website for their information. They use misleading stats and false analogies. I can provide several. I've been down this road more than once and it's always the same story. It's only when you DO open your mind and look at what's Really going on around you do you realize what the Republicans are really trying to do.

Bush could have spent that media time stating what he's going to do FOR the country instead of attacking and saying what he thinks Kerry is going to do Against it. Pretty simple.

Kerry's record is sound. He showed support and unity when he cast that vote and Bush took advantage of it. It's pretty simple really. Knowing what we know now about Iraq there are MANY who oppose the war and we now Know it was a mistake.

I can attack Bush as well. Bring up his cocaine habits, how he failed at all the business undertakings his Dad put him in charge of, blah blah blah... I'd rather focus on what Bush has done to the country in the last 3 years and the issues.

I am a 100% Free Thinker. That's what gets me into so much trouble. I respect others opinions though and don't take these arguments personally or anything.
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 12:39 PM
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"But for now, most Americans oppose the plan, which would allow millions of illegal aliens to remain in the United States as guest workers if they have jobs. The immigrants eventually could apply for permanent legal residence. " From the Washington Times

http://washingtontimes.com/national/...0236-9769r.htm



"MONTERREY, Mexico - Questioned by leaders of Canada and some Latin American nations at the Americas Summit being held here, President Bush was having a hard time selling the idea of a free trade pact for both Americas." MSNBC

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/3920890/

I don't HAVE to make this stuff up...

What exactly did I say was "propaganda" or false???
 
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Old Feb 26, 2004 | 06:13 PM
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I am not a Democrat. I am not a Republican. I was more of a liberal thinker when I was younger. At this point I guess I would be considered a conservative thinker.

I don't subscribe to any party. I am registered unenrolled. I don't think that Bush is the best thing since sliced bread. I don't think he is the best for OUR country. I don't see a better alternative at this point. I truley believe that Kerry as president would be two steps back.

I don't HAVE to make this stuff up...
No, not made up. Just not the whole story. It's plain to me that the main stream media is driven by the liberal agenda. I don't take what I see on Fox news or hear on Limbaugh as gospel either. I know that every media outlet is going to put a spin on stories to fit their agenda. Limbaugh is an entertainer. He isn't media and isn't a politician. He doesn't need to tell the whole truth and nothing but the truth if he doesn't want to. I think what he, and other entertainers like him do is give us things to think about. That type of entertainment has exposed the narrow vision of the main stream media.

To be honest, I really don't care who is elected. Either way it won't be someone who I think has the best interests of WE THE PEOPLE, at the top of the priority list. As far as I'm concerend, as long as we use this narrow, two party system, we won't have the opportunity to hear about the people who truely have what it takes to govern OUR country. No, untill we realize how bad we are being cheated by this corrupt system, and these shady, two faced, career politicians, we will just continue to complain and bash each other every election year.

As far as my opinion of this two party election, I think they are both very, very evil. Kerry being just a bit more evil. So I think that Bush is the lesser of the two evils. That's not really saying much though.

Give me six canidates from six different parties, then maybe I'll like one.
 
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