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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:27 PM
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The Real Veterans ...

A piece in the local paper that pointed out that
they would no longer place an American Flag
Icon on obituaries in the paper without charging
coupled with receiving this prompts me to say a
big thanks to all the service members past and
present for protecting our liberty and freedom.

If you want to le the paper know how you feel about
charging widows for an American Flag email
"Lexington Herald Leader"

Now ... The REST of the STORY ....


Quite a few of us grew up with Captain Kangaroo.
We knew nothing of his background, only that his
show was both entertaining and educational. As
kids we looked forward to it with anticipation.

Captain Kangaroo turned 76 recently, which is odd
because he never looked a day under 76 (dob: 6/27/27).
This brings to mind the following story told by
Lee Marvin to Johnny Carson.


Some people have been offended that actor Lee Marvin
is buried in a grave alongside three- and four-star
generals at Arlington National Cemetery. His marker
gives his name, rank (PVT) and service (USMC) -- nothing else.

Here's a guy who was only a famous movie star who
served his time, why the heck does he rate burial with
these guys? Well, following is the amazing answer.


In a time when many Hollywood stars served their
country in the armed forces, often in rear-echelon posts
where they were carefully protected only to be trotted
out to perform for the cameras in war bond promotions, Lee
Marvin was a genuine hero. He won the Navy Cross at Iwo
Jima. There is only one higher Naval award . . . the Medal of
Honor.

If that is a surprising comment on the true character of
the man, he credits his sergeant with an even greater
show of bravery. Dialog from the Tonight Show with Johnny
Carson with Lee Marvin as guest: "Lee, I'll bet a lot of
people are unaware that you were a Marine in the initial
landing at Iwo Jima . . and during the course of action you
earned the Navy Cross and were severely wounded."

"Yeah, yeah...I got shot square in the hind end and
they gave me the Cross for securing a hot spot about
halfway up Suribachi . . . bad thing about getting shot up
on a mountain is those other guys gettin' shot hauling
you down. But, Johnny, at Iwo I served under the bravest
man I ever knew . . . we both got the Cross the same day,
but what he did for his Cross made mine look cheap in
comparison. This brave guy actually stood up on Red Beach
and directed his troops to move forward and get the heck
off the beach. Bullets were flying by and mortar rounds
landing everywhere, and he stood there as the main target
of gun fire so he could get his men to safety. He did that
on more than one occasion because his men's safety was
more important than his own life. That sergeant and I have
been lifelong friends.

When they brought me off Suribachi we passed the
sergeant and he lit a smoke and passed it to me, lying
on my belly on the litter and asked, "Where'd they get you Lee?"

"Well, Bob . . . if you make it home before me, tell Mom
to sell the outhouse!"

"Johnny, I'm not lying . . . Sergeant Keeshan was the bravest
man I ever knew . The sergeant's name is Bob Keeshan . . .
You and the world know him as Captain Kangaroo."

On another note, there was this wimpy little man (who recently passed away) on PBS, gentle and quiet. Mr. Rogers is another of
those you would least suspect of being anything but what he
long portrayed to our youth.

But, Mr. Rogers was a U.S. Navy Seal, combat proven in Vietnam
with over twenty-five confirmed kills to his name. He wore a long-sleeve sweater on his show to cover the many tattoos on his
forearm and biceps. He was a master in small arms and hand-to-
hand combat, able to disarm or kill in a heartbeat.

After the war Mr. Rogers became an ordained Presbyterian
minister and therefore a pacifist. Vowing to never again harm
another human he dedicated the rest of his life to trying to help
lead children on the right path in life. He hid the tattoos and his
past life away and won our hearts with his quiet wit and charm.

America's real heroes don't flaunt what they did,
they quietly go about their day-to-day lives doing what
they do best. Look around and see if you can find one of
those heroes in your midst.

And Thank Them ...
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:52 PM
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Sorry but Mr Rogers was never a Navy SEAL and Captain Kangaroo never served at Iwo.


http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm

It was a nice read though.
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 02:54 PM
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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RIGHT ON,
That last paragraph sums it up nicely SVT KY

My Father has absolutely, never ever, not once,
talked about his experiences in the war.
OR AS SOME CALLED IT, A POILICE ACTION
Tell that to the Marines like my Dad that fought the
front line for dam near two years, at times in sub zero
fox holes filled with snow. When you'd wake up the next
morning to find the guy next to you had his neck slit
for his boots (THE OTHER SIDE DIDN'T HAVE BOOTS)

My dad use to be into photography, had a black room, and send
pic's home from Korea for years when he was there.
Once in H/S I found them in a box up in the attic and used some
for a Report I did. THE SCHOOL WAS NOT HAPPY and my parents were called up to school for a meeting.

For those that have seen, OR HAVE DONE what he did, you know what it's like. The Pic's that got me in trouble were a series of shots getting closer and closer to something, you just couldn't make out in the first 3 or 4 shots. As the shots got closer you realized what it was.
What is was, was a hole dam near the size of some towns that
was filled with body's and body parts, and ya the gun ho brooklyn
italian at the time had close ups of him holding body parts and 1/2 blown off heads, etc... When it's kill or be killed, you become very pround of your kills. Just like I'm still proud of him and glad
he's still here to enjoy daily.

That day was THEE ONLY TIME he spoke of it. I asked the usual,
Dad did you ever kill someone, and he gave the answer.
Yes I have, many he then explained that believe it or not,
some people actually had the task of dragging dead body's and parts to this ever growing city size hole to dump the remains in,
and then they put lye over it. His exact words were, HOW DO YOU THINK WE KNEW WHO WAS WINNING

They may not do it like that anymore, I don't know ??
but they did, I saw it. After that day and still to today I know nothing about what he did other than lots of kill pictures I have found and scene over the years, he doesn't know about.

He got out, married Mom, had 6 boys, and became one of the best wood workers I've even seen in my Life. Had his own Cabinet Shop for 30 years, retired now and lives only a town away from me.

THERE ARE MILLIONS OF MR CARUSO HERO'S IN THIS WORLD
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 03:39 PM
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Originally posted by RhinoSlug
Sorry but Mr Rogers was never a Navy SEAL and Captain Kangaroo never served at Iwo.


http://www.snopes.com/military/keeshan.htm

It was a nice read though.

the internet makes people stupid... thank god for snopes.com!!!


 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 04:05 PM
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Well, the first part was true ...

And the second I did post without verifying, but
thanks to you guys, the truth is known ... Just
for arguements sake, what makes the words on
the internet (Snopes) more truthful than other
words on the internet (?)
 
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Old Feb 6, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Originally posted by SVT_KY
Well, the first part was true ...

And the second I did post without verifying, but
thanks to you guys, the truth is known ... Just
for arguements sake, what makes the words on
the internet (Snopes) more truthful than other
words on the internet (?)
I guess if they can't verify something, it must be false.



I've wondered about the accuracy of the urban legends and snopes sites myself, from time to time. It doesn't mean they aren't correct though. All the cool stories seem to be false.
 
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