Democrat or Republican
Originally posted by sirket
Lieberman isn't doing well because he is running in the wrong primary. He accidentally wound up in the Democratic primary instead of the Republican primary.
-Don
Lieberman isn't doing well because he is running in the wrong primary. He accidentally wound up in the Democratic primary instead of the Republican primary.
-Don
Originally posted by 01sport
You mean Al Gore's former running mate? The guy that old Al didn't endorse????
You mean Al Gore's former running mate? The guy that old Al didn't endorse????
I love how in Kerry's new commercial he states - I'm a gun owner and a hunter.....Dude you've been a Senator in Mass for how long? YOU have done WHAT for gun owners and hunters. Do you ACTUALLY think any of these ABSURD laws will PROTECT anyone other than CRIMINALS?
Every one of these guys has a PLAN. A plan to reduce taxes, give everbody health care, re-vamp the school system and create jobs. How come we never get the details of the PLAN. I wish just one of these guys would talk to me like I'm a two year old and explain the PLAN. I just do not understand how they can reduce taxes (money coming in) and give away more free stuff (services). Are these guys going to get into office and open up a bunch of companies...Is how they CREATE jobs?
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I hear you BostonCowboy and here is something none of the liberals are telling you or me which is a fact:
If any, I mean if anyone of these democrats is elected to office the deficit will sore even higher then President Bush could think of, that is not fiction it is reality. All their plans for health care and other social programs is going to bloat the federal budget EVEN if they do RAISE taxes as everyone of them has promised.
So, if you want a tax hike and higher deficits for your kids to pay off then vote for a democrat for President and let the REAL social spending begin…
If any, I mean if anyone of these democrats is elected to office the deficit will sore even higher then President Bush could think of, that is not fiction it is reality. All their plans for health care and other social programs is going to bloat the federal budget EVEN if they do RAISE taxes as everyone of them has promised.
So, if you want a tax hike and higher deficits for your kids to pay off then vote for a democrat for President and let the REAL social spending begin…
The other thing that rubs me......
How come none of these guys ever DEFINE the term - Middle Class?
I wish for once the President, Congress, the Senate or Websters for that matter would define the damn word, once and for all. Give me something to work with here guys.
I got about half way thru the last debate before my head exploded. Its the same crap and no real answers. I love how Brit Hume asks Clark a couple of SPECIFIC questions and for that gets labeled a Right Wing Extremist. WTF.
How come none of these guys ever DEFINE the term - Middle Class?
I wish for once the President, Congress, the Senate or Websters for that matter would define the damn word, once and for all. Give me something to work with here guys.
I got about half way thru the last debate before my head exploded. Its the same crap and no real answers. I love how Brit Hume asks Clark a couple of SPECIFIC questions and for that gets labeled a Right Wing Extremist. WTF.
Originally posted by BostonCowboy
I love how Brit Hume asks Clark a couple of SPECIFIC questions and for that gets labeled a Right Wing Extremist. WTF.
I love how Brit Hume asks Clark a couple of SPECIFIC questions and for that gets labeled a Right Wing Extremist. WTF.
Oh, and to answer your question on "who" is the middle class. I read somewhere once that anyone who makes more then $50,000 or a married couple that makes more then $100,000 are defined as RICH when it comes to liberals and taxes.
So you tell me someone that makes $50,000 or a couple that make $100,000 are rich and thats who the liberals want to screw HARD, them dirty nasty RICH people...
So you tell me someone that makes $50,000 or a couple that make $100,000 are rich and thats who the liberals want to screw HARD, them dirty nasty RICH people...
I just do not understand how they can reduce taxes (money coming in) and give away more free stuff (services). Are these guys going to get into office and open up a bunch of companies...Is how they CREATE jobs?
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The only way to get rid of the deficit is to cut taxes and spend more money. The only way to get rid of the debt is to have larger deficits.
The way it works is this: Eventually the deficit/debt gets so large that the computer register used to store the number overflows. When that happens, the huge deficit will appear in the computer as a huge surplus and as we all know, if the computer says it is so, then it must be.
-Don
Economics 101:
There is ONLY one undisputed way to reduce and eliminate deficits:
CUT spending…
Raising taxes does NOT reduce or eliminate deficits, cutting taxes does NOT increase deficits, the ONLY thing that causes deficits is OVER spending…
There is ONLY one undisputed way to reduce and eliminate deficits:
CUT spending…
Raising taxes does NOT reduce or eliminate deficits, cutting taxes does NOT increase deficits, the ONLY thing that causes deficits is OVER spending…
Originally posted by sirket
Dean wanted to undo the Bush tax cuts,(code for RAISE taxes) eliminate the deficit and pay off the national debt.(code for he has his head up his *** and will bloat the deficit with MUCH MORE spending then any Republican) A complete crackpot if you ask me.
The only way to get rid of the deficit is to cut taxes (Wrong, cutting taxes does absolutely nothing for the deficits, however it has been proven time and time again that cutting taxes results into more federal REVENUE = lower deficits) and spend more money. (Spending causes deficits) The only way to get rid of the debt is to have larger deficits. (Whaaaaaaaatttt?)
The way it works is this: Eventually the deficit/debt gets so large that the computer register used to store the number overflows. When that happens, the huge deficit will appear in the computer as a huge surplus and as we all know, if the computer says it is so, then it must be.
-Don
Dean wanted to undo the Bush tax cuts,(code for RAISE taxes) eliminate the deficit and pay off the national debt.(code for he has his head up his *** and will bloat the deficit with MUCH MORE spending then any Republican) A complete crackpot if you ask me.
The only way to get rid of the deficit is to cut taxes (Wrong, cutting taxes does absolutely nothing for the deficits, however it has been proven time and time again that cutting taxes results into more federal REVENUE = lower deficits) and spend more money. (Spending causes deficits) The only way to get rid of the debt is to have larger deficits. (Whaaaaaaaatttt?)
The way it works is this: Eventually the deficit/debt gets so large that the computer register used to store the number overflows. When that happens, the huge deficit will appear in the computer as a huge surplus and as we all know, if the computer says it is so, then it must be.
-Don
Cut taxes by 50% across the board, then reduce spending (with the exception of the military) by 60% and bye-bye deficits…
After 10 – 15 years you will always have basically a 10% surplus every year…
If you spend more money then you make you have a deficit. If you spend less money then you make you have a surplus, very simple to understand and they even teach it basically in grade school, but then again since our public schools are not much to talk about perhaps that is why it is so hard for many to understand a “simple” problem when others try to make it much more complicated then it really is.
Last edited by 01 XLT Sport; Jan 27, 2004 at 01:07 PM.
Cut taxes by 50% across the board, then reduce spending (with the exception of the military) by 60% and bye-bye deficits…
There are a lot of wasteful programs that should be cut including:
1. Education
2. Farm Subsidies
3. Energy Subsidies
4. Clean Water/Environmental Protection
5. Interstate Highways
6. Port Authorities
7. Coast Guard
8. IRS
9. etc.
As a citizen of a very populous state I am kind of sick and tired of funding the empty states like New Hampshire and North Dakota. Like failing schools those states should be closed and the resources better spent elsewhere.
-Don
Dean wanted to undo the Bush tax cuts,(code for RAISE taxes) eliminate the deficit and pay off the national debt.(code for he has his head up his *** and will bloat the deficit with MUCH MORE spending then any Republican) A complete crackpot if you ask me.
Why on Earth do you keep insisting that Dean will bloat the budget when his record in Vermont shows he did the opposite?
-Don
Why on Earth do you keep insisting that Dean will bloat the budget when his record in Vermont shows he did the opposite
Originally posted by Frank S
How could we know? There is alot of secrecy surrounding his tenure in Vermont.
How could we know? There is alot of secrecy surrounding his tenure in Vermont.
Anyhow, Dean is a liberal and running around spouting about many social liberal programs he wants to put into place. That will INDEED bloat the budget. As I stated if you elected anyone of the liberal democrats running for office they will BLOAT the budget more then President Bush could ever dream of doing.
They will CUT military spending, they will RAISE taxes which will slow down and hurt the economy and will result in LESS federal revenue as well as further job losses that the Clinton administration caused due to the Clinton recession.
Now, with less federal revenue due to higher taxes and spending HIKES unlike any seen before it will BLOAT the deficit.
So I ask again, why would anybody elect someone to office that is going to TAKE more money from them, make the economy weak, not worry about protecting America and help to possible put them into the unemployment lines?
Democrats have to feed their special interest groups, which are those, that are to stupid and lazy to get off their *** and actually work for a living so they just sit at home watching Oprah all day waiting for the free gifts the socialist liberal democrats are going to give them.
Exactly, anyone who has his or her “public” records sealed and can only be opened by court order has a LOT to hide for some reason.
Dean sealed up a fraction of his records as Governor of Vermont, just like two previous governors did. The only difference was he asked that they be sealed for 10 years instead of 6 in case he actually won the presidency.
The records were sealed because they contain private letters and other correspondence that do not pertain to the public. If you wrote a letter to the Governor and said something like:
"My father has AIDS and I wanted to know if there are any programs in the works for new public treatment programs.
Sincerely,
Burton Ernie"
Would you want that letter made public so that everyone finds out your father has AIDS?
Dean sealed on a fraction of his records and did so for what I consider to be a good reason. Then he was asked to unseal the records. What is he supposed to do? If he unseals them all, he violates peoples privacy. If he only unseals parts, then he continues to get accused of hiding information. Dean took the only valid course of action which is to let a judge decide.
What's so sad is that Bush sealed ALL of his records and did so for longer than Dean did, yet for some reason you do not care. How do you explain this blatant bias on your part? Bush sealed ALL of his records for LONGER than Dean and you do not care. WHY NOT?
Dean did not do that much for Vermont. As far as health care there and the percentage of people covered changed very little with Dean. The Governor prior to Dean already did it.
Anyhow, Dean is a liberal and running around spouting about many social liberal programs he wants to put into place. That will INDEED bloat the budget. As I stated if you elected anyone of the liberal democrats running for office they will BLOAT the budget more then President Bush could ever dream of doing.
Clinton reduced the deficit and we were paying down the National Debt. Exactly how irresponsible was that? Clinton slashed welfare and the IRS but you could care less about that either.
They will CUT military spending, they will RAISE taxes which will slow down and hurt the economy and will result in LESS federal revenue as well as further job losses that the Clinton administration caused due to the Clinton recession.
Now, with less federal revenue due to higher taxes and spending HIKES unlike any seen before it will BLOAT the deficit.
You are a lot like a parrot. Reagan, Bush Sr. and now Bush Jr. all taught you how to say "Bah! Polly want a tax cut!" and that seems to be all you know how to say.
I want tax cuts also but I am not willing to put this country further into debt to acheive them. As for whether or not they work as you advertise, just look at the Reagan administration.
Despite major tax cuts, additional money did not magically appear in the Federal budget as had been promised. Americans had more money to spend, and they did spend it. During the 8 years of Reaganomics our country plunged further into debt. Bush senior had to go and raise taxes just to keep us from plunging further into debt and having our credit rating slashed by the rest of the world.
So I ask again, why would anybody elect someone to office that is going to TAKE more money from them, make the economy weak, not worry about protecting America and help to possible put them into the unemployment lines?
Democrats have to feed their special interest groups, which are those, that are to stupid and lazy to get off their *** and actually work for a living so they just sit at home watching Oprah all day waiting for the free gifts the socialist liberal democrats are going to give them.
-Don
Last edited by sirket; Jan 28, 2004 at 06:08 PM.


